SavedByTheLord
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What was the first living creature and what features did it have?
What was the second living creature and what features did it have?
How did flight evolve? Be specific.
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Another irrefutable proof that God created all things using mathematical induction. And a proof that The Bible is the word of God.
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What was the second living creature and what features did it have?
How did flight evolve? Be specific.
SavedByTheLord
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That guys name is not in the KJB.You're not even trying are you? It took just a few minutes to find out that that is because the transliteration of Κυρήνιος is Cyrenius in the KJV. This is another problem with thinking an English version of the bible is the prefect one.
Quirinius - Wikipedia
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Publius Sulpicius Quirinius (c. 51 BC – AD 21), also translated as Cyrenius,[1] was a Roman aristocrat....There is a reference to Quirinius in the Gospel of Luke chapter 2, which links the birth of Jesus to the time of the Census of Quirinius, although this contradicts the time of Jesus' birth described in the Gospel of Matthew, which is ten years earlier, under the reign of Herod the Great, who died in the year 4 BC.[15] The time of the census of Quirinius is also be inconsistent with Luke chapter 1, in which Herod is described as still being alive a little more than a year before Jesus's birth.
Quirinius - Encyclopedia of The Bible - Bible Gateway
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QUIRINIUS kwĭ rĭn’ ĭ əs (Κυρήνιος, G3256, Luke 2:2). KJV CYRENIUS, sī rē’ nĭ es. The full name is Publius Sulpicius Quirinius. Transliteration into Gr., and then transliteration into Eng. without reference to the Lat., led to the mistaken form “Cyrenius” in KJV (Luke 2:2).
And can you prove the infallible history that you refer to?
And you do know that there are many people that have the same name?
Your proof was dismantled before.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You have that backwards. A person that understands the gospel of Christ will never be "saved" because he knows that it is not the word of God.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Try reading it! What is it about "QUIRINIUS kwĭ rĭn’ ĭ əs (Κυρήνιος, G3256, Luke 2:2). KJV CYRENIUS, sī rē’ nĭ es. The full name is Publius Sulpicius Quirinius. Transliteration into Gr., and then transliteration into Eng. without reference to the Lat., led to the mistaken form “Cyrenius” in KJV (Luke 2:2)." that you are struggling with?
TagliatelliMonster
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SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
Was it the CO molecule?
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
No it was an undetectable graviton pixie.
SavedByTheLord
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So the KJB is correct and says that people will be turned unto fables.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
It is a proven fact that the KJV is wrong about everything. See? Other people can just say things are proved too.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
That's what we call self-fullfilling prophecy.
Indeed, the book that convinces you that a talking serpent convinced a magic rib-woman to eat from a magical tree, could indeed rightfully state people would believe anything.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
In your opinion, of course. That is obviously what you believe, but to state your beliefs as if they were definitive facts could run afoul of Rule 8 of the forum, which prohibits preaching and proselytizing as well as stating one's beliefs as if they were definitive facts. And since you're a Christian, I'm sure you'd want to follow the rules and set a good example for everyone else. As a former Christian, I no longer believe in Jesus, so I reject your beliefs.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
According to Romans 10:8–13, whoever declares with their mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believes in their heart that God raised him from the dead will be saved. Not only that, but they are justified by the belief in their heart and the profession of their faith in Jesus, and they will not be put to shame. In fact, verse 13 clearly states, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." And Ephesians 2:8–9 states, "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast." However, there is an apparent loophole in this seemingly hopeful promise, such as the implication that a person could still be stripped of their salvation and be eternally damned if they don't follow God's will.
I'm referring to Matthew 7:21, which states, "Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven," and the parable of the sheep and goats (Matthew 25:31–46). The "sheep" in the parable were rewarded with eternal life for their good works of feeding the hungry, giving water to people who are thirsty, inviting in a stranger, clothing the needy, and visiting the sick or people in prison. Jesus, however, lambasted the "goats" in this parable for failing to feed the hungry, quench the thirst of the thirsty, welcome strangers, clothe the needy, or pay visits to the ill or those in prison. Jesus cursed them and sent them to eternal damnation. The "goats" lacked the good works to be rewarded with eternal life, in spite of the fact that they were Christians who accepted Jesus as their lord and savior. Herein lies another inconsistent message in the Bible, in my opinion, as Romans 10:8–13 states that a person will be saved if they declare with their mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in their heart that God raised Jesus from the dead. Ephesians 2:8–9 states, "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast." The "God is love!" theme is the whole crux of Christianity and the essential message of Christian evangelism.
It is an integral part of the evangelical strategy Christians typically use to persuade non-Christians into converting to Christianity. Of course, they are more likely to attract potential converts with feel-good messages like "God is love!" or "God loves you!" than with a message like this: "The Bible says that God is love, but it also says that God hates and is a jealous God, and there are repeated threats in the Bible about his wrath and sending the people who didn't ask for his forgiveness to hell for their sins against him. Oh, and that's not to mention the verses about God ordering the execution of witches, ordering the Israelites to kill every man, woman, child, and infant from another nation, and killing every living person on earth, with the exception of one family, in a global flood. But just ignore all of that and focus solely on our 'God is love' message." I'm sure that a gospel message like that one would undoubtedly put a significant damper on their evangelism efforts. I was an evangelical Christian for 30 years, as well as a street preacher and the leader of an evangelism team, so I understand that Christians prefer to depict God and Christianity in the best possible light. I know that Christians who evangelize want the non-Christians they've targeted to focus on the positive scriptures about God's alleged loving and merciful behavior toward humanity and not pay any attention to all the negative scriptures depicting him with sadistic and psychopathic behavior, as well as demonstrating barbaric and genocidal behavior by killing humans with impunity. When I was an evangelism team leader, I was advised not to mention scriptures that negatively depicted God but rather to quote only positive verses about God.
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." - John 3:16
God so loves the world, does he? What about the wicked people that Proverbs 16:4 states he creates for his own purpose? Does he love them too?
"The LORD has made everything for his own purposes, even the wicked for a day of disaster." - Proverbs 16:4 (NLT)
For the record, Bible Hub provides several versions of this verse: Proverbs 16:4.
Subduction Zone
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Yes, it has been many many years since my Lutheran upbringing, but I am familiar with that. The "once saved always saved" Christians tend to be the absolute least moral of all of the Christians. They quite often truly believe that they can no longer sin. They will justify any evil act as theirs as being anything but a sin.
McBell
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SavedByTheLord
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That looks about right for the fables of evolution.
McBell
Unbound
Seems it would be right down your 6000 year ally to me....
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
I think it's also worth noting that Christians don't agree on whether salvation in Jesus is unconditional or not, although they all read the Bible. They believe diverse biblical interpretations and church doctrines about salvation, which is defined as Calvinism vs. Arminianism (unconditional salvation vs. conditional salvation). Some Christians claim that salvation is conditional, and they will quote a few scriptures they believe support their belief. Other Christians claim that salvation is unconditional (OSAS), and they quote a few scriptures they believe support their belief. Yet other Christians claim that speaking in tongues or baptism is required for salvation, and they also quote a few scriptures they believe support their belief. It's ironic that they all claim the Holy Spirit gave them "spiritual discernment" to properly understand the Bible, but it's obvious that they all contradict each other. They all cite the Bible in an attempt to defend their answers, even though their answers are very different and contradictory. They also believe that they are correct about their preferred beliefs and everyone else (including other Christians) is wrong about theirs, but they have the audacity to claim that the Bible is the word of God and Christianity is the only true religion. In my opinion, there's no reason to believe any of them. I think it's also unreasonable for any Christian to claim that their biblical interpretation and theology are correct while insisting that other Christians are wrong, that the Bible is divinely inspired, and that Christianity is the only true religion. I think it's unreasonable for them to expect non-Christians to accept the Bible as divinely inspired, yet they can't agree on what the Bible says.
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Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
SavedByTheLord
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The Bible predict that people will turn to false science and fables. And this is a prediction with exact timing and exact detail.
What was the first living creature and what features did it have?
