Hmmm, I just read the whole article twice and I still can't find the funny part.
Your sense of humor must be more nuanced than mine.
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Another Mass Shooting - Guess the Country
- Thread starter Secret Chief
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Your sense of humor must be more nuanced than mine.
Secret Chief
Vetted Member
What you smoking? Whatever my problems they don't involve guns.We do have a lot of nosy, gossipy neighbors.
Hey, if it helps them forget about their own problems I say let them point at the guys with the biggest house and nicest yard and go "nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah" about our problems if it makes them feel better.
Want me to send you some (I know it's hard to grow anything worthwhile where you are)?
Secret Chief
Vetted Member
You don't know much then.
Guess I need to spend more time hanging out on the fence gossiping with the neighbors then.
I'm sure I'll learn all kinds of things that way. Some of them might actually turn out to be true.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I had to check your claim about guns coming over the border. On the face of it that claim does not make much sense. Why would guns be much cheaper in other countries? So I Googled away and to my surprise found out that there is a problem with guns crossing the borders, both north and south illegally. But not to the US. They go out of the US. Mexico has very strong gun laws and they get a lot of their illegal firearms from the US. Canada too has gun laws, but not as strong as Mexico. One out of five households has a rifle or shotgun, but handgun ownership is very low. It appears that we may be exporting some handguns to Canada.
Here is only the first article that I ran into when I tried to Google the topic. I did not see any articles about them coming from Canada to the US:
Anti-Firearms Trafficking Campaign | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
The United States continues to battle the ongoing problem of firearms smuggling at the northern and southern borders. Firearms trafficking occurs when individuals illegally purchase firearms in the United States and smuggle the weapons across the southern U.S. border into Mexico and into other...
This link has live coverage of developments in the aftermath of the shooting, if anyone wants to check it for updates about the injured victims or the arrest of the suspects:
www.nbcnews.com
Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl rally shooting result of 'dispute between several people,' 2 juveniles in custody
Live updates and latest news coverage on the Kansas City Chief Super Bowl parade shooting.
www.nbcnews.com
Wrong. The U.S. is way down the list of countries for killings per 100,000 people and below some Western European countries such as Finland, Switzerland and France.
Secret Chief
Vetted Member
That doesn't align with the chart in post #29.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
The fact that we're willing to sacrifice the lives of school children upon the altar of gun fetishism warrants their reactions.We do have a lot of nosy, gossipy neighbors.
Hey, if it helps them forget about their own problems I say let them point at the guys with the biggest house and nicest yard and go "nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah" about our problems if it makes them feel better.
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If you say so.
McBell
Unbound
My first guess is that with the chart in post #29 being 14 years old, it is a bit outdated.
Of course, without knowing the source of the chart in post #48....
Yes, it doesn't. The chart in post #29 is based on inferior methodologies and data.
I live in KC and did not go to the parade as I was on a training ride instead. A friend was there with his daughter and heard the gunfire.
Missouri is a very red state and has among the easiest access to guns in the country. Violent crime has been higher in the last year and the availability of guns is one reason.
The latest reports are that this was an argument between teenagers who were armed and 21 people were hit during the shooting. The only death was a local DJ from the local public radio station. Half of the victims were children from 6 to 17.
Oddly Mitch Holthus who does the Chiefs radio broadcasts knew the victim.
Missouri is a very red state and has among the easiest access to guns in the country. Violent crime has been higher in the last year and the availability of guns is one reason.
The latest reports are that this was an argument between teenagers who were armed and 21 people were hit during the shooting. The only death was a local DJ from the local public radio station. Half of the victims were children from 6 to 17.
Oddly Mitch Holthus who does the Chiefs radio broadcasts knew the victim.
Secret Chief
Vetted Member
Latest from World Population Review:
"Mass shootings are part of the larger issue of overall gun violence, which is notably higher in the United States than in other wealthy and developed countries. Countries with similar levels of gun-related deaths tend to be still-developing countries mired in violent civil unrest, revolution, or war.
The U.S. endures the most mass shootings in the world, with—depending upon one's definition of a mass shooting (see next section)—somewhere between 21 and more than 600 in 2020."
- Mass Shootings by Country 2024
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McBell
Unbound
What is the source of your chart in post #48?
What makes you think the chart in post #29 is "based on inferior methodologies and data"?
Yeah, let’s talk about how kids get guns.
And in a state that has some of the most lax gun laws in the USA.
I have already posted a link to the source for the chart in post #48. On that site it describes their methodology. On that site it also describes how other sources, such as used for the chart from post #29, rely on misleading sources such as incomplete governmental reporting from various countries. To wit,
"For example, almost half the countries in the world don’t even report the number of firearm homicides, just the total number of homicides. Few countries provide murder rates as opposed to homicides. Other countries just don’t officially collect data on mass public killings, let alone on the category of shootings."
McBell
Unbound
There is no link in post #48
So you have nothing for the specific site linked to in post #29?
Just a generalized "other sites suck" claim from the site the chart in post #48 is from?
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Secret Chief
Vetted Member
Come on, a clinical research study from the American Journal of Medicine is bound to be methodologically unsound huh?
(The source of the Wiki chart)
The conclusion from that study:
"The United States has an enormous firearm problem compared with other high-income countries, with higher rates of homicide and firearm-related suicide. Compared with 2003 estimates, the US firearm death rate remains unchanged while firearm death rates in other countries decreased. Thus, the already high relative rates of firearm homicide, firearm suicide, and unintentional firearm death in the United States compared with other high-income countries increased between 2003 and 2010."
- https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(15)01030-X/fulltext
Have things improved since?
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