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Another member of the squad pro-terrorist.

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Because they dressed as clowns.......

The real definition of clown world.

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Has nothing to do with white supremacy.

I see your Urban Dictionary with a Know Your Memes: Clown Pepe / Honk Honk / Clown World | Know Your Meme


...or "...feeling of having sexuality threatened by another group having equal rights?"

Then why the above?

Satire can be effective as a political tool?

Whataboutism is irrelevant here.

It's not. If straight pride is a response to gay pride, this would not be whataboutism.

Satire as you have repeatedly said.

Not in the way that identity politics involves a focus on a particular group identity.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
I see your Urban Dictionary

The Urban Dictionary is correct here.

If they was white supremacist then please explain this.

..or "...feeling of having sexuality threatened by another group having equal rights?"

If they was threatened by equal rights of LGBT why did they have a gay man lead the parade with other LGBT people supporting/participating in it?

See your logic is flawed.

Not in the way that identity politics involves a focus on a particular group identity.

No one identity was actually represented, other than in name alone. Nobody was banned from participating in the parade.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
The Urban Dictionary is correct here.

If they was white supremacist then please explain this.

If they was threatened by equal rights of LGBT why did they have a gay man lead the parade with other LGBT people supporting/participating in it?

See your logic is flawed.

Honor by association fallacy: Association fallacy - Wikipedia

People if a particular group are perfectly capable of working against the interests of the group.

No one identity was actually represented, other than in name alone. Nobody was banned from participating in the parade.

Straight pride historically has been used as a way to mock gay pride: Straight pride - Wikipedia
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Honor by association fallacy:

Nope, just letting ya know your definition is a fallacy. Its black propaganda meant to confuse you. It worked.

People if a particular group are perfectly capable of working against the interests of the group.

Sure but that's not what happening.

Straight pride historically has been used as a way to mock gay pride

How is the Boston event mocking gay Pride when a gay man was chosen to lead it? As well as LGBT and ethnic minority supporters within the parade. It was an extremely inclusive event that was attacked violently by bigots wishing to shut it down.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Nope, just letting ya know your definition is a fallacy. Its black propaganda meant to confuse you. It worked.

Black propoganda? Are you referring to the video?

Sure but that's not what happening.



How is the Boston event mocking gay Pride when a gay man was chosen to lead it? As well as LGBT and ethnic minority supporters within the parade. It was an extremely inclusive event that was attacked violently by bigots wishing to shut it down.

Then what is the purpose of straight pride? The history has been associated with anti-lgbtq sentiment.

Again, honor by association. It is easy enough to add a person of a minority to something that works against them subtly in order for people to point to that token minority and say "See! No bigotry here!"
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Black propoganda?

Black propaganda - Wikipedia

Then what is the purpose of straight pride

To give the far left an opportunity to prove they are tyrants. Which they did by attacking the parade and the cops.

The history has been associated with anti-lgbtq sentiment.

The history is irrelevant.

Again, honor by association. It is easy enough to add a person of a minority to something that works against them subtly in order for people to point to that token minority and say "See! No bigotry here!"

That's an insult to minorities that disagree with you politcally and a cop out tbh.

How do you suggest adding a black person to a white supremacist group? Is the cognitive dissonance so bad you can't even comprehend how nonsensical you are being.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan

In relation to the clowns-alt right connection? Could you eleborate? In other words, who is trying to confuse me?

To give the far left an opportunity to prove they are tyrants. Which they did by attacking the parade and the cops.

So straight pride Boston was not about sexual expression but a cheap shot at gay pride to bait a violent reaction?

The history is irrelevant.

History is rarely irrelevant, especially recent history involving the rights of LGBTQ folks that are still being fought over.

That's an insult to minorities that disagree with you politcally and a cop out tbh.

How do you suggest adding a black person to a white supremacist group? Is the cognitive dissonance so bad you can't even comprehend how nonsensical you are being.

It's a real issue and should be called out when appropriate: Tokenism - Wikipedia

I am willing to admit I am wrong if this is not a case, but let's look at the facts:

-It was a straight pride parade put on by Republicans (Hugo) and right wingers (Milo). (These groups being political opponents of gay rights.)

-It is likely politically motivated, either as a farce or bait.

-The organizers are billing themselves as oppressed because of being straight: Boston Rejects Straights

Satirical or not, this is directed towards an anti-lgbtq stance given it is unreasonable that straights are oppressed.

Given these facts, it is likely that the event is some sort of political maneuver that in one way or another has an anti-lgbtq agenda and for someone to point to LGBTQ folks in the parade makes me think it is an example of tokenism.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
In other words, who is trying to confuse me

The clowns

So straight pride Boston was not about sexual expression but a cheap shot at gay pride to bait a violent reaction?

It was about fun. It also proved a point. 2 birds 1 stone.

History is rarely irrelevant, especially recent history involving the rights of LGBTQ folks that are still being fought over.

Irrelevant to straight pride.

(These groups being political opponents of gay rights.)

I don't care about the groups. Look at.the individuals.

-It is likely politically motivated, either as a farce or bait.

Good old fashioned fun.

-The organizers are billing themselves as oppressed because of being straight

And they were oppressed. What else would you call being attacked in Hope's of surprising free speech. That is oppression. The left is tyrants, and they proved it beyond all doubt.

Satirical or not, this is directed towards an anti-lgbtq stance given it is unreasonable that straights are oppressed.

The proof is in the pudding. If they weren't oppressed they wouldn't have been attacked, belittled, and misrepresented.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
This is the same justification white supremacist have used in the past, most notable the Nazis. By labeling Jews as monsters then using it as justification to kill millions. An excerpt from Mein Kampf written by Hitler:

Excerpts from Mein Kampf

"With satanic joy in his face, the black-haired Jewish youth lurks in wait for the unsuspecting girl whom he defiles with his blood, thus stealing her from her people."

There is nothing noble about dehumanizing people to justify harming/killing them. The irony is so thick as the original Antifa was assembled to rebel against Hitler. It seems the hero has lived long enough to become the villain.

Antifa isn't a race. More so Antifa was part of the communist party in German so the Nazi stuck with the anti-Communist PR. Get your history right.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
What is the purpose of a straight pride parade? Why bill straights as an oppressed majority?

The parade was made to troll people in order to get a reaction in order to paint the left as intolerant. It works in some ways, failed in others.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Antifa isn't a race. More so Antifa was part of the communist party in German so the Nazi stuck with the anti-Communist PR. Get your history right.

I never said antifa was a race......

I never said anything about the original antifa being communist either. Just that they opposed the nazis.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
The parade was made to troll people in order to get a reaction in order to paint the left as intolerant. It works in some ways, failed in others.

And the left overwhelmingly proved just how intolerant and tyrannical they are.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
I never said antifa was a race......

You are comparing it to a group, Jews, that were consider a race by the Nazis. You just didn't understand your own comparison.

I never said anything about the original antifa being communist either. Just that they opposed the nazis.

I am pointing out historical facts as per your comparison. Like I said your grasp of history is lacking. Antifa was a paramilitary part of the communist party of German. They countered the brown shirts.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
You are comparing it to a group, Jews, that were consider a race by the Nazis. You just didn't understand your own comparison.

No, you misunderstand the post.

I was saying that dehumanizing people is what the Nazis did to the Jews.

And that antifa now does the same thing.

Which is ironic considering the original antifa opposed the nazis, and now have become the nazis.

How you misconstrued that as antifa is a race is bewildering.

I am pointing out historical facts as per your comparison. Like I said your grasp of history is lacking. Antifa was a paramilitary part of the communist party of German. They countered the brown shirts.

Your pointing out errors I didn't comment on. So how can it be an error if I didn't comment on it to begin with?
 

Shad

Veteran Member
No, you misunderstand the post.

I was saying that dehumanizing people is what the Nazis did to the Jews.

Yes use race

And that antifa now does the same thing.

Which is different as it isn't about race.

Which is ironic considering the original antifa opposed the nazis, and now have become the nazis.

Both shared the same tactics and called for the exterminations of undesirables.

How you misconstrued that as antifa is a race is bewildering.

As you are missing key points about the Nazi obsession with race and purity



Your pointing out errors I didn't comment on. So how can it be an error if I didn't comment on it to begin with?

Wrong you still made errors by comparing without looking into actual details.
 
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