Another Perp Who Needs To Rot In Jail....

[Revoltingest]

Maybe this guys punishment should include a match against Mike Tyson?

Or....

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It's awesome that there's so many specialists in criminal justice who know which individuals can and cannot be rehabilitated. I hope you all are working for your local jail/prison so you can sort people out there. It would save our local, state and federal governments so much money to have experts like those in this thread.

Seriously, I work in the field and this is all emotionally based junk. Have fun with your two minutes of hate.

I couldn't care less about what happens to someone who bites the nose off of an infant, fractures his skull and causes a brain hemorrhage. The kid might have permanent brain damage not to mention his nose. He can get killed for all I care. There's too much scum in this world as it is. People who abuse the most defenseless - non-human animals and children - need to go. We don't need them. It's one step to make the world a better place for all lifeforms.

 

[Assad91]

I couldn't care less about what happens to someone who bites the nose off of an infant, fractures his skull and causes a brain hemorrhage. The kid might have permanent brain damage not to mention his nose. He can get killed for all I care. There's too much scum in this world as it is. People who abuse the most defenseless - non-human animals and children - need to go. We don't need them. It's one step to make the world a better place for all lifeforms.

That's something I can agree with you whole heartedly.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

That's something I can agree with you whole heartedly.

Of course, man. I may not agree with you on religious matters but we definitely agree on other things.

 

[Drolefille]

I couldn't care less about what happens to someone who bites the nose off of an infant, fractures his skull and causes a brain hemorrhage. The kid might have permanent brain damage not to mention his nose. He can get killed for all I care. There's too much scum in this world as it is. People who abuse the most defenseless - non-human animals and children - need to go. We don't need them. It's one step to make the world a better place for all lifeforms.

Even better, someone who knows the exact cases the death penalty needs to be applied in. And clearly someone who makes none of his own mistakes either.

Before you say "yes but they're not _______ mistakes" just be happy that the world isn't run on the opinion of someone who thinks that YOUR mistakes should be worth being killed for, no ifs, ands, or buts.

Regardless this whole thread is some weird revenge-porn garbage. Ooh lets think of even more horrible ways to hurt someone.

 

[Assad91]

Even better, someone who knows the exact cases the death penalty needs to be applied in. And clearly someone who makes none of his own mistakes either.

Before you say "yes but they're not _______ mistakes" just be happy that the world isn't run on the opinion of someone who thinks that YOUR mistakes should be worth being killed for, no ifs, ands, or buts.

Regardless this whole thread is some weird revenge-porn garbage. Ooh lets think of even more horrible ways to hurt someone.

Yeah. All those words aren't needed to say childabusers are okay.

 

[dust1n]

Even better, someone who knows the exact cases the death penalty needs to be applied in. And clearly someone who makes none of his own mistakes either.

Before you say "yes but they're not _______ mistakes" just be happy that the world isn't run on the opinion of someone who thinks that YOUR mistakes should be worth being killed for, no ifs, ands, or buts.

Regardless this whole thread is some weird revenge-porn garbage. Ooh lets think of even more horrible ways to hurt someone.

Don't worry about it. It's a pointless human exercise in catharsis.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Don't worry about it. It's a pointless human exercise in catharsis.

More like feigned moral outrage. Clucking our tongues at the sins of others is just plain bull ****.

 

[Drolefille]

Yeah. All those words aren't needed to say childabusers are okay.

Sorry I'd like you to be clearer. Are you claiming that I am saying child abuse is OK?

 

[dust1n]

More like feigned moral outrage. Clucking our tongues at the sins of others is just plain bull ****.

Haha... well somewhere between the two. But, it's all nothing new. I think it's one of the better institutions, the one that prevents the mob from attacking anyone whom its suggested some evil thing was done.

 

[Assad91]

Sorry I'd like you to be clearer. Are you claiming that I am saying child abuse is OK?

It's what you're implying, isn't it? Seems so

 

[dust1n]

It's what you're implying, isn't it? Seems so

Of course not.

 

[Drolefille]

It's what you're implying, isn't it? Seems so

No. It isn't. And that is a ridiculous and offensive claim. Please don't make it again.

What I stated is what I posted, that all of this garbage - he should die, be assaulted or raped in jail, etc. - is nothing more than two minutes of hate ala Orwell's 1984. It is being stated by people who know nothing of the individual's situation that he cannot be rehabilitated and should be killed. Which is something that experts in criminal justice cannot claim. But it's ok, the internet has figured it out.

I'm aware that it's cathartic, but it's disgusting. It is the same mindset that allows abuse to happen, the dehumanization and othering of people. "Even " criminals.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm aware that it's cathartic, but it's disgusting. It is the same mindset that allows abuse to happen, the dehumanization and othering of people. "Even " criminals.

Well, I'm sorry if it offends you. But yes, we will make macabre humor about horrible things.
Note though, that I clearly stated I wanted him in prison for life. The real world legal punishment
would be less gruesome than our fantasies. Besides, even worse events taking place in my mind
are never even voiced....consider yourself fortunate to be spared such carnage.

 

[Drolefille]

Well, I'm sorry if it offends you. But yes, we will make macabre humor about horrible things.
Note though, that I clearly stated I wanted him in prison for life. The real world legal punishment
would be less gruesome than our fantasies. Besides, even worse events taking place in my mind
are never even voiced....consider yourself fortunate to be spared such carnage.

Your comments were probably the least offensive. I've heard far worse, I've THOUGHT worse, but there's a difference in having a thought and shutting it down and encouraging it among others. Your post regarding his rehabilitation capabilities is ignorant only in that what you claim is completely unknowable as someone whose contact with the story involves only a news report.

What actually offended me was being told that expressing this opinion meant I supported child abuse.

 

[Revoltingest]

Your comments were probably the least offensive. I've heard far worse, I've THOUGHT worse, but there's a difference in having a thought and shutting it down and encouraging it among others. Your post regarding his rehabilitation capabilities is ignorant only in that what you claim is completely unknowable as someone whose contact with the story involves only a news report.

Ignorant I am of this person, other than the knowledge that he would with purpose &
intent bite the nose off an infant. If this extraordinary enormity actually happened, then
I do judge him as irredeemable, & deserving to be permanently removed from society.

What actually offended me was being told that expressing this opinion meant I supported child abuse.

I don't see how anyone could infer that from your posts.

 

[Drolefille]

Ignorant I am of this person, other than the knowledge that he would with purpose & evil intent bite the nose off an infant. If this actually happened, then I do judge him as irredeemable, & deserving to be permanently removed from society.

As a matter of policy, this doesn't work for financial reasons among others. Depending on the case, people convicted of Murder 1 can be out of prison in 25 years or so. Murder 2, 10. Manslaughter, 1. This guy could be a complete "waste of space" if such a person can be said to exist - I don't really agree. Or he could be mentally ill and have lacked any external supports. It doesn't excuse his behavior, it merely explains it and intent matters as much as criminal record and state of mind in sentencing.

I've had parents tell me that they have thoughts just as horrible as this - they had the thought of screaming at the baby and shaking it to make it stop crying, or just smothering it. They didn't do it, thankfully, but the thoughts are not unusual. Psychology really can't explain yet why some people act on them and some don't.

I don't see how anyone could infer that from your posts.

I believe it was a thought process of "if you're not supporting the death of this man you must be OK with it," but that's only a supposition.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No. It isn't. And that is a ridiculous and offensive claim. Please don't make it again.

What I stated is what I posted, that all of this garbage - he should die, be assaulted or raped in jail, etc. - is nothing more than two minutes of hate ala Orwell's 1984. It is being stated by people who know nothing of the individual's situation that he cannot be rehabilitated and should be killed. Which is something that experts in criminal justice cannot claim. But it's ok, the internet has figured it out.

I'm aware that it's cathartic, but it's disgusting. It is the same mindset that allows abuse to happen, the dehumanization and othering of people. "Even " criminals.

One thing I noticed, is the article did not paint the man with a past record, which to me seems suggest he may not have one or we may have been reading about a monster instead of a man (especially considering the media's "special treatment" of non-whites). I would say it's probable he probably wont do it again, and probably isn't really a great threat to society. Anger management I would think is probably the best thing for him. Jail and prison probably would just turn him from an isolated incident void of all rational thought, into a hardened criminal.
But it is a heinous crime and we are human, and deal with things differently. I wouldn't really want the guy (or really just about anyone) to suffer in prison, but at the same it doesn't mean I'm not going to entertain ideas (such as this guy in a boxing match with Mike Tyson, who bit off an opponent's ear for those who have forgotten) that help me feel less ****** about it. It let's me laugh the anger out, and reapproach the story with less anger. I also usually notice more things about a case when I do it this way too.
And initial gut-reaction replies aside, there are many members here who have no idea how bad the American criminal justice system as a whole really is. Sending this guy to jail or prison is the best way to make sure we have yet another person who is perpetually in-and-out of the system.

 

[Drolefille]

One thing I noticed, is the article did not paint the man with a past record, which to me seems suggest he may not have one or we may have been reading about a monster instead of a man (especially considering the media's "special treatment" of non-whites). I would say it's probable he probably wont do it again, and probably isn't really a great threat to society. Anger management I would think is probably the best thing for him. Jail and prison probably would just turn him from an isolated incident void of all rational thought, into a hardened criminal.
But it is a heinous crime and we are human, and deal with things differently. I wouldn't really want the guy (or really just about anyone) to suffer in prison, but at the same it doesn't mean I'm not going to entertain ideas (such as this guy in a boxing match with Mike Tyson, who bit off an opponent's ear for those who have forgotten) that help me feel less ****** about it. It let's me laugh the anger out, and reapproach the story with less anger. I also usually notice more things about a case when I do it this way too.
And initial gut-reaction replies aside, there are many members here who have no idea how bad the American criminal justice system as a whole really is. Sending this guy to jail or prison is the best way to make sure we have yet another person who is perpetually in-and-out of the system.

Frubaled.

I also come down to - kids do need their parents. Even when their parents screwed stuff up, they need them. With DCFS supervision and parenting classes and anger management but they need them if it's possible to have them. I've worked with kids who were hurt physically, mentally, and not one of them didn't want their parents. The ones who didn't have them, blamed themselves. Not all of those parents were capable of parenting, and some were in jail for the rest of their lives, and yet there were many who could do better.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Frubaled.

I also come down to - kids do need their parents. Even when their parents screwed stuff up, they need them. With DCFS supervision and parenting classes and anger management but they need them if it's possible to have them. I've worked with kids who were hurt physically, mentally, and not one of them didn't want their parents. The ones who didn't, blamed themselves. Not all of those parents were capable of parenting, and some were in jail for the rest of their lives, and yet there were many who could do better.

For personal reasons, I found the part of kids still wanting their parents interesting. It's definitely something I've been needing to read as I've been working on reconciling my past with my own mother. At least now I know I'm not that weird for not wanting to exclude her from my life. Even my therapist (who use to work with the criminally insane) has acknowledged her as a ""unique" [for a lack of better and less offensive words] and very difficult person" who he "probably doesn't want to meet." But at least now I can stop wondering why I really want anything at all to do with her, as apparently that seems to be normal.