Another Trans Woman Wins Sports Competition

[Subduction Zone]

Regardless what you think, its fact

NO, you screwed up. That is a fact.

 

[crossfire]

Wasn't quite sure where to put this in political debates...so it landed here.

The reason I am posting this thread is in all the bold text. If you cant beat the boys, go beat the girls. Yes that's my opinion and what I believe.

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I just love irony. Is all this hub-bub of cis men going after transwomen the latest version of smear the {gender}queer?

 

[We Never Know]

NO, you screwed up. That is a fact.

Two simple questions....I expect a dodge but we well see.

Had they won a world title competing as a man?

Or was their first world title won while competing as a women.?

 

[We Never Know]

NO, you screwed up. That is a fact.

And this is a true statement....

"but has never achieved the same level of success in the men’s division."

That level of success was their first world medal.

It never said they couldn't win as a man, its says never had the same level of success.

Reading comprehension is key.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Two simple questions....I expect a dodge but we well see.

Had they won a world title competing as a man?

Or was their first world title won while competing as a women.?

Your questions are a dodge. You have not been listening to the facts that refute you. He regularly beat men. He was new to competition again, so that almost always means than one will not be the best in the world, but he still won eleven Italian national titles. He regularly beat men. You lost.

And even worse for you, he bronze medaled at the world level. That means that he was still not beating all of the women.

So we have ignoring of the facts on your part and very poor and unjustified assumptions.

 

[We Never Know]

Your questions are a dodge. You have not been listening to the facts that refute you. He regularly beat men. He was new to competition again, so that almost always means than one will not be the best in the world, but he still won eleven Italian national titles. He regularly beat men. You lost.

And even worse for you, he bronze medaled at the world level. That means that he was still not beating all of the women.

So we have ignoring of the facts on your part and very poor and unjustified assumptions.

Who said they beat all the women?

Oh.. Thats right no one did but you brought it up regardless.

And this is a true statement....

"but has never achieved the same level of success in the men’s division."

That level of success was their first world medal.

It never said they couldn't win as a man, its says never had the same level of success.
Reading comprehension is key.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Who said they beat all the women?

Oh.. Thats right no one did but you brought it up regardless.

And this is a true statement....

"but has never achieved the same level of success in the men’s division."

That level of success was their first world medal.

It never said they couldn't win as a man, its says never had the same level of success.
Reading comprehension is key.

An argument so poor that it can be refuted with a:

So what?

 

[We Never Know]

An argument so poor that it can be refuted with a:

So what?

Facts are facts. You seem to hate facts when they go against you lol.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Facts are facts. You seem to hate facts when they go against you lol.

No, it was explained to you how you misinterpreted fact.. You were using a grossly oversimplified interpretation of the facts where you had to ignore at least half of them.

 

[Brian2]

These trans women seem to be really good at sports. I wonder why that is.

 

[We Never Know]

These trans women seem to be really good at sports. I wonder why that is.

Maybe because they train as males lol

 

[We Never Know]

No, it was explained to you how you misinterpreted fact.. You were using a grossly oversimplified interpretation of the facts where you had to ignore at least half of them.

I see you don't understand facts or you may have poor reading comprehension.

If you take my course I can help you

 

[Twilight Hue]

Wasn't quite sure where to put this in political debates...so it landed here.

The reason I am posting this thread is in all the bold text. If you cant beat the boys, go beat the girls. Yes that's my opinion and what I believe.

"Valentina Petrillo underwent a transition in 2019(at 44), changing his name and starting hormone replacement therapy. As a result, Petrillo began participating in women’s athletics, (paralympic women's competition) and breaking several Italian records along the way. Strikingly, Petrillo has won multiple women’s running championships but has never achieved the same level of success in the men’s division."

MSN

Women's sports are pretty much finished now with all this insanity going on.

 

[Revoltingest]

Solution is simple....
Trans women compete along with cis women.
They each have their own category, so there
would be 2 1st place winners, 2 2nd place
winners, & so on.

 

[Quintessence]

So I just can't care about this when the same humans who are freaking out about "men" in women's sports and claim to be pro-woman by disallowing their participation are the same ilk violating basic human rights by passing forced birth (aka, state sanctioned slavery when pregnant) legislation. Sorry.

 

[sun rise]

Wasn't quite sure where to put this in political debates...so it landed here.

The reason I am posting this thread is in all the bold text. If you cant beat the boys, go beat the girls. Yes that's my opinion and what I believe.

"Valentina Petrillo underwent a transition in 2019(at 44), changing his name and starting hormone replacement therapy. As a result, Petrillo began participating in women’s athletics, (paralympic women's competition) and breaking several Italian records along the way. Strikingly, Petrillo has won multiple women’s running championships but has never achieved the same level of success in the men’s division."

MSN

Some cis women have high testosterone levels and win competitions. In one case I read about, she was ordered to take drugs to lower her testosterone level. Trans vs cis is overly simplistic.

 

[We Never Know]

Your questions are a dodge. You have not been listening to the facts that refute you. He regularly beat men. He was new to competition again, so that almost always means than one will not be the best in the world, but he still won eleven Italian national titles. He regularly beat men. You lost.

And even worse for you, he bronze medaled at the world level. That means that he was still not beating all of the women.

So we have ignoring of the facts on your part and very poor and unjustified assumptions.

Didn't answer the questions just as predicted.

And even worse you called them a "he" when you know they are a transgender female. That's rude and disrespectful.

"he bronze medaled at the world level. That means that he was still not beating all of the women.

 

[Soandso]

Intersex women are overrepresented in women's sports in the Olympics with their medals and have been for some time. Should we take away their medals?

 

[Revoltingest]

Didn't answer the questions just as predicted.

And even worse you called them a "he" when you know they are a transgender female. That's rude and disrespectful.

"he bronze medaled at the world level. That means that he was still not beating all of the women.

I lose track of the history of their competition & sex
status at each stage. But I'd use "he" referring to
their male stage, & "she" after transition.

Complicated it is. In Chinese, pronouns
lack gender...."he" & "she" are both "ta".
But the language sux in other ways.
English is best, & will evolve as needed.

 

[We Never Know]

I lose track of the history of their competition & sex
status at each stage. But I'd use "he" referring to
their male stage, & "she" after transition.

Complicated it is. In Chinese, pronouns
lack gender...."he" & "she" are both "ta".
But the language sux in other ways.
English is best, & will evolve as needed.

The posts first paragraph speaks of "he" when they were a man.
The second speaks of "he" after they transistioned.