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Answering Tzarah's Question about Hebrew text of Yoel 4:1

Ehav4Ever

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Can you give me the exact chapter(s) and verse(s) of Joel or Yoel which say that the Israelites who are in captivity/exile will escape from the nations and return early to the holy land before the events of Joel 3:1-2 (Yoel 4:1-2) take place?

I will be glad to answer your questions as soon as we finish dealing with the original issue.

I gave all of that information in the 2nd video.
 

Tazarah

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I gave all of that information in the 2nd video.

@ what time in the video? I don't recall there being any verses saying that the exiles of Judah and Jerusalem will escape the nations and return early to the holy land before the events of Yoel 4:1-2 take place.
 

Ehav4Ever

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@ what time in the video? I don't recall there being any verses saying that the exiles of Judah and Jerusalem will escape the nations and return early to the holy land before the events of Yoel 4:1-2 take place.

I suggeset you, if you have 30 minutes to spare, that you watch the video from start to finish; like we Torath Mosheh Jews would do. If you don't have 30 minutes to spare, I can understand.
 

Tazarah

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I suggeset you, if you have 30 minutes to spare, that you watch the video from start to finish; like we Torath Mosheh Jews would do. If you don't have 30 minutes to spare, I can understand.

I do not have 30 minutes to spare. Could you give the chapter and verse which says that the exiles would escape from the nations and return to Israel before the events of Yoel 4:1-2 take place?
 

Ehav4Ever

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I do not have 30 minutes to spare. Could you give the chapter and verse which says that the exiles would escape from the nations and return to Israel before the events of Yoel 4:1-2 take place?

Okay. So then in the video 12:00 to 26:54.
 

Tazarah

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Okay. So then in the video 12:00 to 26:54.

So in other words, there is no specific chapter or verse in the text which says that the exiles of Judah and Jerusalem will "escape from the nations" and return to the holy land before the events of Yoel 4:1-2 take place, as you claimed.

You just want me to listen to you try to explain your way around Yoel 4:1-2 as you talk about something that is not even written in any of the texts. ;)
 

Ehav4Ever

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So in other words, there is no specific chapter or verse which says that the exiles of Judah and Jerusalem will "escape from the nations" and return to the holy land before the events of Yoel 4:1-2 take place, as you claimed.

You just want me to listen to you talk about something that isn't even written in any of the texts. ;)

I just feel that if you have all this time to respond in writing you have the same amount time to listen to a segment of the video. I also feel that there is a very specific reason why you don't want to answer my questions about Hebrew Israelite theology. See the feeling can go both ways. In any case I think we have resolved this for ourselves. ;)
 

Tazarah

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I just feel that if you have all this time to respond in writing you have the same amount time to listen to a segment of the video. I also feel that there is a very specific reason why you don't want to answer my questions about Hebrew Israelite theology. See the feeling can go both ways. In any case I think we have resolved this for ourselves. ;)

You are unable to provide a specific verse that says what you claim -- which is that the exiles of Judah and Jerusalem will "escape from the nations" and return early to Israel before the events of Yoel 4:1-2 take place.

There are no verses that speak of this, which is why you created a 30 minute long video to beat around the bush.

If the text says what you claim, then provide the chapter and verse which says it.

Have you ever heard the saying -- "the longer the explanation, the bigger the lie"?

It isn't a surprise that you are now trying to change the subject and force me to answer questions that have nothing to do with what we were originally discussing.
 

Ehav4Ever

Well-Known Member
You are unable to provide a specific verse that says what you claim -- which is that the exiles of Judah and Jerusalem will "escape from the nations" and return early to Israel before the events of Yoel 4:1-2 take place.

There are no verses that speak of this, which is why you created a 30 minute long video to beat around the bush.

If the text says what you claim, then provide the chapter and verse which says it.

Have you ever heard the saying -- "the longer the explanation, the bigger the lie"?

It isn't a surprise that you are now trying to change the subject and force me to answer questions that have nothing to do with what we were originally discussing.

Since we have been commenting back forth for more than 30 minutes it would appear that you do have a bit of time on your hands. So, I think that answers for my questions for me.

In any case, the video is on YouTube for all to see then time will tell. Have a good one.
 

Tazarah

Well-Known Member
Since we have been commenting back forth for more than 30 minutes it would appear that you do have a bit of time on your hands. So, I think that answers for my questions for me.

In any case, the video is on YouTube for all to see then time will tell. Have a good one.

The fact that you are unable to post the verse that says what you claim is plain evidence that it doesn't exist and that what you are saying cannot be substantiated with the scriptures.

If something that someone claims is written in the text is actually written in the text, then any rational person would simply post the book, chapter and verse for reference, and that would be the end of the matter.

You instead create a 30 minute long video in order to explain away the fact that you do not have an answer for Yoel 4:1-2 (Joel 3:1-2).

You claim the text says that the exiles of Judah and Jerusalem will somehow "escape from the nations" and return early to Israel before the events of Yoel 4:1-2 (Joel 3:1-2) take place, yet after being given several opportunites to reference the specific scripture you are unable to so.

I encourage anybody who actually watches this video to comment and post the scriptures that say what you claim, but I will not hold my breath because I am certain that such scriptures do not exist and I will not be tricked into watching a long-winded video that does not actually prove any of the claims that you have made.
 
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