Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens

[Revoltingest]

This applies to all parties on this thread - and to Savage and the kids who walked out and everyone in between:

Piffle!
At times, I like to steer haters in a direction of understanding.
At rarer times, it even works.
I urge all to try being friendly & engaging to someone you disrespect.
(Of course, many here already do. And we jerks appreciate that...it helps us be better.)

Buckaroo Banzai....
"Don't be mean; we don't have to be mean, cuz, remember, no matter where you go, there you are. "

 

[Me Myself]

Piffle!
At times, I like to steer haters in a direction of understanding.
At rarer times, it even works.
I urge all to try being friendly & engaging to someone you disrespect.
(Of course, many here already do. And we jerks appreciate that...it helps us be better.)

This

 

[RisingKnowledge]

I don't see anything wrong with what he had to say. People get there feelings hurt to easy IMO

 

[Me Myself]

saying a hate inspiring text is wrong is not bullying. Is anti-bullying.

 

[Nobody]

Excellent speech, no idea who this guy is but he nailed it. About damn time too.
How is it bullying to point out that those awful parts of the Bible are ********? Most Christians are well aware of this which is why they happily ignore those very passages. Of course they prefer to dress it up in various excuses rather than actually admit it, why? Because religion was above all criticism.

 

[YmirGF]

saying a hate inspiring text is wrong is not bullying. Is anti-bullying.

I'd love to see him trot out a variation of this speech in Dearborn, Michigan to a largely Muslim audience, referencing the Qur'an. Yeah, that would go over real well. Then again, let's see him trot this by an African American audience. A bully is a person who picks on easy targets and that is precisely what Savage has done. How is he NOT a bully himself?

And again... I don't even like Rick Santorum and think he would make a dangerous president, but what Savage did to him via Google should remove any credibility the man has.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'd love to see him trot out a variation of this speech in Dearborn, Michigan to a largely Muslim audience, referencing the Qur'an. Yeah, that would go over real well. Then again, let's see him trot this by an African American audience. A bully is a person who picks on easy targets and that is precisely what Savage has done. How is he NOT a bully himself?
And again... I don't even like Rick Santorum and think he would make a dangerous president, but what Savage did to him via Google should remove any credibility the man has.

You convinced me....Savage is a bully.
It's just that he's OK with bullying people he doesn't like.
I wonder if his last name is a risk factor for such meanness?

 

[RisingKnowledge]

I'd love to see him trot out a variation of this speech in Dearborn, Michigan to a largely Muslim audience, referencing the Qur'an. Yeah, that would go over real well. Then again, let's see him trot this by an African American audience. A bully is a person who picks on easy targets and that is precisely what Savage has done. How is he NOT a bully himself?

And again... I don't even like Rick Santorum and think he would make a dangerous president, but what Savage did to him via Google should remove any credibility the man has.

bullying present participle of bul·ly
Verb:
Use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants. Now how did he use strength or influence to get them to do anything. They didn't want to hear what he had to say. So they all got up and walked away.

 

[YmirGF]

bullying present participle of bul·ly
Verb:
Use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants. Now how did he use strength or influence to get them to do anything. They didn't want to hear what he had to say. So they all got up and walked away.

The vapidity of your assertion is breathtaking...

 

[HerDotness]

bullying present participle of bul·ly
Verb:
Use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants. Now how did he use strength or influence to get them to do anything. They didn't want to hear what he had to say. So they all got up and walked away.

Indeed.

Another mark of how he'd have been an actual bully was if they all had been so terrified of him that they immediately grabbed their cellphones to call their Congress reps and senators demanding instant repeal of DOMA and that gay marriage be legalized nationwide now.

 

[Revoltingest]

bullying present participle of bul·ly
Verb:
Use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants. Now how did he use strength or influence to get them to do anything. They didn't want to hear what he had to say. So they all got up and walked away.

If his rant had been against those depraved *$^#@*&!* homos, would it still be considered not bullying?
I see a broader definition of "bullying", one including berating someone to make them feel bad.

 

[Kathryn]

From the organization which hired him to speak:

"Statement by
National Scholastic Press Association
and
Journalism Education Association
Re: Keynote speaker at recent Seattle convention

At one of the plenary keynote sessions of the two organizations’ semi-annual conventions, Mr. Dan Savage had been invited to share with students the power of social media in today's world as well as speak about the problem of bullying of gay youth, an issue all too familiar in many American schools. Mr. Savage’s comments on April 13 veered from the topic however. At a point in his speech he criticized the Bible, at times using vulgar language. An immediate consequence was that some students and advisers walked out on the speech.

NSPA and JEA consider Mr. Savage’s use of harsh language and profanity to be inappropriate and offensive to many in attendance. This is not what our organizations expected. In his attempt to denounce bullying, Mr. Savage belittled the faith of others – an action that we do not support. Ridicule of others’ faith has no place in our programs, any more than ridicule of the LGBT community would.

Student journalism, like professional journalism, is built on the foundation of free speech. It should not shy away from controversial topics and viewpoints. But it should promote and engage in civil discourse. Mr. Savage’s speech fell short of that standard, and for this our organizations apologize.

Mr. Savage has also apologized for using inappropriate language in front of the convention audience.

The two organizations will review their procedures to assure the appropriateness of content to student audiences."
National Scholastic Press Association

Good for them.

 

[HerDotness]

If his rant had been against those depraved *$^#@*&!* homos, would it still be considered not bullying?

Of course not! That would have been simply telling the truth. < sarc alert! >

 

[Revoltingest]

Of course not! That would have been simply telling the truth. < sarc alert! >

You are a wicked wicked person!
(Of course, you already know that.)

 

[Me Myself]

I'd love to see him trot out a variation of this speech in Dearborn, Michigan to a largely Muslim audience, referencing the Qur'an. Yeah, that would go over real well. Then again, let's see him trot this by an African American audience. A bully is a person who picks on easy targets and that is precisely what Savage has done. How is he NOT a bully himself

"Easy targets" ??? Hje didn´t pick on anyone, he merely pointed out a hateful text as what it was. I don´t know NOR care if other audiences would have wanted to denounce him as "hurting their feelings", the reality is that the specific parts of the text he is quoting are hateful.

I don´t care if it hurts ANYONE´S feelings, the parts that say that homosexuality are punishable by death in the bible are WRONG

If acknoledging my right (not to say my moral dutty) to say this is being an "easy target", then I don´t see that as a weakness, but as social maturity.

And again... I don't even like Rick Santorum and think he would make a dangerous president, but what Savage did to him via Google should remove any credibility the man has.

I am not talking in behalf of the man´s life, I am talking about his speech. I am not going to play the "credibility" game. I am judging the words he said. All he said to what I heard him there (excluding panzy*** and the language of bull ***) is PERFECTLY fitting in an antibullying chat.

More to say, the anti bullying chat GAINED from those remarks. It IS time that we start seeing homophobia supporting quotes of the bible the same way we see the slavery support ones.

I won´t hold ANYONE´S homophobia as holy. Nor should the government. Nor should an anti-bully speech.

 

[Me Myself]

From the organization which hired him to speak:

"Statement by
National Scholastic Press Association
and
Journalism Education Association
Re: Keynote speaker at recent Seattle convention

At one of the plenary keynote sessions of the two organizations’ semi-annual conventions, Mr. Dan Savage had been invited to share with students the power of social media in today's world as well as speak about the problem of bullying of gay youth, an issue all too familiar in many American schools. Mr. Savage’s comments on April 13 veered from the topic however. At a point in his speech he criticized the Bible, at times using vulgar language. An immediate consequence was that some students and advisers walked out on the speech.

NSPA and JEA consider Mr. Savage’s use of harsh language and profanity to be inappropriate and offensive to many in attendance. This is not what our organizations expected. In his attempt to denounce bullying, Mr. Savage belittled the faith of others – an action that we do not support. Ridicule of others’ faith has no place in our programs, any more than ridicule of the LGBT community would.

Student journalism, like professional journalism, is built on the foundation of free speech. It should not shy away from controversial topics and viewpoints. But it should promote and engage in civil discourse. Mr. Savage’s speech fell short of that standard, and for this our organizations apologize.

Mr. Savage has also apologized for using inappropriate language in front of the convention audience.

The two organizations will review their procedures to assure the appropriateness of content to student audiences."
National Scholastic Press Association

Good for them.

About profanity good for them. About belittling other ones faith to believe the bible is right when it says homosexuality diserves death...

Do I need to point that out? REALLY?

 

[HerDotness]

From the organization which hired him to speak:

"Statement by
National Scholastic Press Association
and
Journalism Education Association
Re: Keynote speaker at recent Seattle convention

At one of the plenary keynote sessions of the two organizations&#8217; semi-annual conventions, Mr. Dan Savage had been invited to share with students the power of social media in today's world as well as speak about the problem of bullying of gay youth, an issue all too familiar in many American schools. Mr. Savage&#8217;s comments on April 13 veered from the topic however. At a point in his speech he criticized the Bible, at times using vulgar language. An immediate consequence was that some students and advisers walked out on the speech.

NSPA and JEA consider Mr. Savage&#8217;s use of harsh language and profanity to be inappropriate and offensive to many in attendance. This is not what our organizations expected. In his attempt to denounce bullying, Mr. Savage belittled the faith of others &#8211; an action that we do not support. Ridicule of others&#8217; faith has no place in our programs, any more than ridicule of the LGBT community would.

Student journalism, like professional journalism, is built on the foundation of free speech. It should not shy away from controversial topics and viewpoints. But it should promote and engage in civil discourse. Mr. Savage&#8217;s speech fell short of that standard, and for this our organizations apologize.

Mr. Savage has also apologized for using inappropriate language in front of the convention audience.

The two organizations will review their procedures to assure the appropriateness of content to student audiences."
National Scholastic Press Association

Good for them.

Honestly, what did they expect? One has only to read Savage's weekly column to know he's unlikely to be a squeaky clean speaker.

If they wanted make-nice-nice, they picked the wrong guy altogether.

Notice how the Bible once again, ad infinitum, is armor-clad. Must not criticize the Bible...no sirree.

So, it's about time we re-instituted slavery. God had so many nice things to say about it...like how much is too much to beat your slave who deserves it.

Why blame Savage so much? Let's lay some of that on the NSPA for being so stupidly undiscerning.

 

[Revoltingest]

I won´t hold ANYONE´S homophobia as holy. Nor should the government. Nor should an anti-bully speech.

I say let'm believe & say that homosexuality is wrong in the eyes of their God.
Many can & do express it without bullying. Savage could learn from this.

 

[Kathryn]

People have their lingerie disoriented because a speaker at a high school isn't supposed to use language you'll hear in the hallways during class changes, that's the point.

And criticize the BIBLE????? Not to be done. Religion is Teflon-coated.

Do you really not get this?

In addition to calling what many consider a holy text "bull ****," he then proceeded to lambast the students who walked out (peaceably, I might add).

Walking out of an assembly is a time honored traditional mode of protest. The students didn't yell, they didn't confront him, they didn't raise any hell - they simply got up and walked out.

There are people on this thread who have actually denounced them for doing so. I have a feeling that if someone had been giving a speech and they denigrated atheism or the gay lifestyle or abortion rights, and some students got up and walked out in protest, the same people would be applauding them for their "principled approach" and their dignity.

Tacky and hypocritical are the two words that come to mind when I listen to his speech.

 

[Me Myself]

I say let'm believe & say that homosexuality is wrong in the eyes of their God.
Many can & do express it without bullying. Savage could learn from this.

The problem is that not only does it says it is wrong in the eyes of God. It says it diserves death. If it diserves death, how can a little bullying be wrong? It´s nowhere NEAR what the "word of God" says they diserve, right? It would be unchristian for me not to make their lives miserable until they commit suicide.

Sometimes they try to kill themselves and faill and I just want to post in their facebook and twitters "better luck next time. you can´t even do that right"

I am such a good christian.
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I wish this was a caricature of a posture, and not an actual popular stance... It´s really not funny. People need to wake up. The text says they diserve death. This is not okay. It´s diabolical.