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nPeace

Veteran Member
I don't feel threatened.
Then why view every expression as a threat, even when it's not?

You're the one who mentioned twisting stuff to our own destruction to which I say hogwash. I'm not motivated by such idle threats from an ancient book that is so primitive in its understanding of the world that it had absolutely no idea how unsafe and unsanitary it is to have bird's blood slung all over the place when someone is cured of leprosy.
See. It's not a threat. It's a statement Paul made. He wasn't threatening anyone, but simply stating a fact.
Even if you think it's hogwash, considering it a threat, indicates a feeling of being threatened.

Although the Bible does not say anyone had bird's blood slung on them after being cured of leprosy, it does say blood of bulls was sprinkled on the people, on one occasion, and that had nothing to do with leprosy. (Exodus 24:5-8)

As for that claim of "unsafe and unsanitary" use of blood. That's hogwash. :D
The blood of bulls touching human skin is not "unsafe and unsanitary"... Or birds.
No science agrees with such nonsense claims. :D
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Then why view every expression as a threat, even when it's not?
Because you are the one who first mentioned about twisting stuff to our destruction. That is a threat because it implies there is pending destruction for those who make such criticisms of the Bible.
Definition of THREAT
Definition of threat
(Entry 1 of 2)

1 : an expression of intention to inflict evil, injury, or damage
2 : one that threatens
3 : an indication of something impending


Although the Bible does not say anyone had bird's blood slung on them after being cured of leprosy, it does say blood of bulls was sprinkled on the people, on one occasion, and that had nothing to do with leprosy. (Exodus 24:5-8)

As for that claim of "unsafe and unsanitary" use of blood. That's hogwash. :D
The blood of bulls touching human skin is not "unsafe and unsanitary"... Or birds.
No science agrees with such nonsense claims. :D
Science and medicine clearly state blood is potentially very unsanitary and very unsafe to handle without protective gear. Human or animal, there is a very real risk of blood born pathogens.
And you've apparently not read the Bible because this is in Leviticus 14.
1 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
2 This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest:
3 And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper;
4 Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:
5 And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water:
6 As for the living bird, he shall take it, and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water:
7 And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Because you are the one who first mentioned about twisting stuff to our destruction. That is a threat because it implies there is pending destruction for those who make such criticisms of the Bible.
Definition of THREAT
So scientists make threats when they mention weather forecasts, or ideas about the end of the earth, or give information about what happens when people don't wear seatbelts, and accidents occur...
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That's not what you're trying to say, is it?

Otherwise, I can't make sense of your argument.
It makes more sense, that you feel threatened whenever something is quoted from the Bible, which you feel applies to you.

Science and medicine clearly state blood is potentially very unsanitary and very unsafe to handle without protective gear. Human or animal, there is a very real risk of blood born pathogens.
And you've apparently not read the Bible because this is in Leviticus 14.
Ah. I missed that one. Thank you.

So you have a problem with the practices carried out by the nation of Israel.
I understand.
I am aware of your worldview, and it includes certain things I don't accept.

For one thing, I know my limitations - I don't know everything... and I don't have to know everything.
However, I can accept things I do not fully understand, so long as I understand enough to trust that the things I don't fully understand, are worthy of acceptance... and through thorough research, I have discovered that what's written in the Bible, is worthy of acceptance, for so many reasons.

Consider these...
There are waterborne pathogens also. Does Science and medicine also clearly state that touching water without protective gear is potentially very unsanitary and very unsafe to handle without protective gear?

No. Water becomes dangerous when infected people or animals shed microbes in feces... etc.

The same principle applies to birds. Pathogens are not an animal... what should I say... reservoir.
The birds were of the clean animals. That means they were not scavenger bids, or birds that ate any-and-everything.

The birds were raised by the Israelites, so what they fed on was controlled - like farmers raising life-stock.
The blood was collected over running water.

Thus, there is no reason for concluding that the birds' blood was dangerous to anyone.
To conclude that, one would have to also conclude that the water carried pathogens as well.
However, no one would be that unreasonable ... I think. I hope. :(
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
So scientists make threats when they mention weather forecasts, or ideas about the end of the earth, or give information about what happens when people don't wear seatbelts, and accidents occur...
t1802.gif

That's not what you're trying to say, is it?
It is the weather making the threats when the skies rapidly darken and chill and the wind suddenly picks up.
But with Bible, it's a god that is only found within the pages of that book making these threats of destruction.
So you have a problem with the practices carried out by the nation of Israel.
No, I'm using that for a reference point on how crude and primitive the worldview of the Bible is.
Consider these...
There are waterborne pathogens also. Does Science and medicine also clearly state that touching water without protective gear is potentially very unsanitary and very unsafe to handle without protective gear?

No. Water becomes dangerous when infected people or animals shed microbes in feces... etc.
Please learn about blood born pathogens before thinking you are posting sound and wise advice.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
It is the weather making the threats when the skies rapidly darken and chill and the wind suddenly picks up.
But with Bible, it's a god that is only found within the pages of that book making these threats of destruction.

No, I'm using that for a reference point on how crude and primitive the worldview of the Bible is.

Please learn about blood born pathogens before thinking you are posting sound and wise advice.
What... do you think I cannot read?
It seems to me, you chose the option to attack the poster's intelligence... rather than address the post, because 1) the poster shows that he understands what he posts, and it is sound enough to throw your argument where it belongs... along with the frivolous things you come up with, to say... like that last one.
I don't recall giving anyone advice.
2) Atheists love to feel superior in knowledge, and they put on the pretext of appearing to be.
 
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