Ants and leaves - the Gift

[not nom]

The Force intends for humans to populate other planets - it does not specifically care about the environment - just wants the job to get done.

There are other entities that do care about the planet Earth and that will perhaps be discussed later on another thread.

ohhh, I an can hardly wait!

but maybe the force should learn to like microbes, then it could have a win very easily.

 

[Iti oj]

I'm hardly likely to download a whole book on insect behaviour however interesting it may be.

I doubt the book really understands the Force either so it would just be going over old material.

Is it not strange that the more intelligent an animal becomes then the more his shape changes into a man , ie: horse - dog - monkey - ape - human?

That is no coincidence - all animals want to evolve into humans as dictated by the Law of the Universe.

what about cave paintings depicting man turning into animals? isn't that ab acknowledgment of some amount of superior traits?

 

[tumbleweed41]

It is out there somewhere beyond the human conception of space and time.

So the "center" of the universe does not exist in space or time?

Good grief

 

[nnmartin]

oh yeah? how so? how will we able to violate the laws of thermodynamics in such a way?

The Force will be using people to fulfill the laws of thermodynamics.

People will start to populate other planets thus creating order.

This will slow down the rate of decay in the Universe.

 

[tumbleweed41]

The Force will be using people to fulfill the laws of thermodynamics.

People will start to populate other planets thus creating order.

This will slow down the rate of decay in the Universe.

Unless the Emperor seizes power of the Senate...:sw:

 

[not nom]

you might want to, you know, have a look at this

Second law of thermodynamics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[cablescavenger]

Ants are remarkable creatures that can do many things.

They are a good example of the intelligence given to the insect world.

Some basic instincts are passed down through the genetic code with the time-honoured saviour, a.k.a evolution.

But ants are a good example of what can't be genetically coded for.

Take army ants for instance - what do they do when they reach a small unpassable channel of water? - they have been known to cut down leaves and use them as rafts!

Impossible for this to have been passed down through the genetic code - how could you give a chemical signal that tells an ant that if sometime in its life it were to encounter an unpassable channel of water it is to make a raft!

This cannot be passed over as natural selection, adaptation - this is a good example of the Life Force in action.

It could even be possible for the ants to combine their mental abilities in this type of scenario to work out the best possible course of action to take.

Nature has many mysterious powers.

Genes do not teach anything. A baby doesn't learn to walk and talk because of genes. The genes give it the tools to do so, i.e. legs and voice box, the rest is social.

 

[nnmartin]

you might want to, you know, have a look at this

Second law of thermodynamics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

yes, I'm well aware of pyhsics and entropy.

Order is created from the chaos of the Big Bang - order is given on Earth through the construction of organisms which will then evolve to create even more order. This will use up the energy of the Big Bang and slow down the rate of expanision of the Universe.

Order is a natural tendency - as dictated by the Source.

Eventually when humans/alien species get advanced enough they can leave the solar system/Universe when it eventually fizzles out.

 

[nnmartin]

Genes do not teach anything. A baby doesn't learn to walk and talk because of genes. The genes give it the tools to do so, i.e. legs and voice box, the rest is social.

How does a fish know how to swim then, or a bird/insect to fly?

These animals do it from the off even without a parent present.

It is instinct passed down through DNA.

 

[Alceste]

I'm hardly likely to download a whole book on insect behaviour however interesting it may be.

If you are disinterested in answers, why behave as if you have questions?

Is it not strange that the more intelligent an animal becomes then the more his shape changes into a man , ie: horse - dog - monkey - ape - human?

More questions! But no interest in answers? What are we to do with you?

That is no coincidence - all animals want to evolve into humans as dictated by the Law of the Universe.

Ah, I see. You ask questions to set the stage for your own fanciful, uninformed answers.

Tell me, though, why do you think anyone else should consider your perspective if it lacks any foundation in reality?

(That's a real question, not a rhetorical device.)

 

[Alceste]

nnmartin, can I ask what your views and thoughts are based on? What do you use as evidence for your views?

 

[nnmartin]

If you are disinterested in answers, why behave as if you have questions?

Tell me, though, why do you think anyone else should consider your perspective if it lacks any foundation in reality?

(That's a real question, not a rhetorical device.)

Answers would be good yes, links to a book download site no.

And you mean to say the theory of life arising out of nothing and The Universe existing just because it does is any more real?

As for randomness - many people here say it doesn't exist - in that case everything is pre-ordained = Force/God.

 

[cablescavenger]

How does a fish know how to swim then, or a bird/insect to fly?

These animals do it from the off even without a parent present.

It is instinct passed down through DNA.

I am aware that emotion is passed down in the genetic code, but not aware that motor behaviour is genetically coded.

If you can provide the evidence to show that motor behaviour is buried in genetic code, then I would be interested in reading up on it.

Do you have a link?

Just thought I would add this too:

I dislike wooly words like instinct, it almost reminds me of other woolly words like spirit, soul, God etc.

I prefer evidence, so pointing me to research would be a good start to showing your argument.

The fish and fly are pretty limited to what they can do by their skeletal structure, perhaps it is not instinct but accelerated learning.

A baby once born starts breathing air for the first time, you could say this is instinct passed down by the genetic code, but I am more inclined to believe it to be a biological process.

I remember when I was 6 or 7 pulling a drain up to get at something I had dropped. I had not seen anyone do it before, and didn't know it could be done; so was that instinct passed through my genes? If not then why not?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

If you are disinterested in answers, why behave as if you have questions? ... Ah, I see. You ask questions to set the stage for your own fanciful, uninformed answers.

:clap :clap :clap

 

[McBell]

As for randomness - many people here say it doesn't exist - in that case everything is pre-ordained = Force/God.

So what.
Some people are so into not taking responsibility that they come up with all manner of nonsense to "support"it.

 

[nnmartin]

Anyone who says randomness does not exist is surely a believer in denial.

 

[Alceste]

Answers would be good yes, links to a book download site no.

And you mean to say the theory of life arising out of nothing and The Universe existing just because it does is any more real?

As for randomness - many people here say it doesn't exist - in that case everything is pre-ordained = Force/God.

I can't even respond to this. What's all this about randomness and nothingness? Are we still taking about evolution?

The fact that evolution is not random is not a gap large enough for you to squeeze a good into. Natural selection (the non-sentient kind) is already comfortably lodged there. You would have known this if you knew anything at all about the theory of evolution.

 

[tumbleweed41]

When looking for answers to the mysteries of the universe, an honest man will do honest research. He will utilize reliable and reviewed resources. He will refrain from letting preconceived supernatural notions cloud his reasoning.

The dishonest man however...

 

[nnmartin]

I am aware that emotion is passed down in the genetic code, but not aware that motor behaviour is genetically coded.

Why don't land animals throw themselves of cliffs then to see if they can fly?

If you can provide the evidence to show that motor behaviour is buried in genetic code, then I would be interested in reading up on it.

Try doing a Google search, there is plenty of information online if you look

I prefer evidence, so pointing me to research would be a good start to showing your argument.

The Force does not give out evidence.

 

[nnmartin]

can't even respond to this. What's all this about randomness and nothingness? Are we still taking about evolution?

Yes and No.

The topic has become more general now.

Evolution, meaning of life etc..

The fact that evolution is not random is not a gap large enough for you to squeeze a good into.

A good God can fit in anywhere.