Any cops on RF?

[Shadow Wolf]

In America, if an ordianry police officer tries to arrest you stating that they suspect you of an offence, then you have the right to request a lawyer, and you may refuse until you can see a superior officer.

Over here, you are entitled to a lawyer for any and all questioning.

There have actually been a few cops recently arrested in Indianapolis for corruption, and several cops and several members of the narcotics unit were under investigation. At least it seems to be a growing trend for people to stand up against police oppressiveness.

 

[Panda]

I've only had experience with the police on a few occasions. One was waiting outside a gig when two plain clothes officers arrested one of my friends for drinking alcohol in public. When I asked THEM for ID (well they could have been anyone) they were more than willing to provide it. They took my friend back to the police care round the corner and let him off with a warning.
I have never had a bad experience with the police, they have always seemed nice enough and more than polite.

 

[stacey bo bacey]

I've only had experience with the police on a few occasions. One was waiting outside a gig when two plain clothes officers arrested one of my friends for drinking alcohol in public. When I asked THEM for ID (well they could have been anyone) they were more than willing to provide it. They took my friend back to the police care round the corner and let him off with a warning.
I have never had a bad experience with the police, they have always seemed nice enough and more than polite.

That's good, that's what we need. Although, you live in Scotland so that doesn't really affect us here, but thank you for your story!

 

[stacey bo bacey]

35 Things NOT to Say to a Cop if You're Stopped

[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]35 Things NOT to Say to a Cop if You're Stopped

35. I can't reach my license unless you hold my beer.

34. Sorry officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in.

33. Aren't you the guy-from the Village People band?

32. Hey, you must have been doing 125 to keep up with me. Good job.

31. I though you had to be in relatively good physical shape to be a police officer.

30. I was going to be a cop, but I decided to finish high school instead.

29. Bad cop, no donut.

28. You're not going to check the trunk are you?

27. Gee, that gut sure doesn't inspire confidence.

26. Didn't I see you get your butt kicked on COPS?

25. Wow, you look just like the guy in the picture on my girlfriends night stand.

24. Is it true that people become cops because they're too dumb to work at McDonalds?

23. I pay your salary.

22. So uh, you on the take or what?

21. Gee officer, that's terrific. The last officer only gave me a warning.

20. Do you know why you pulled me over? Okay, just so one of us knows.

19. I was trying to keep up with traffic. Yes, I know there are no other cars around, that's how far ahead they are.

18. What do you mean, "Have I been drinking?" YOU'RE the trained specialist.

17. Well officer, when I reached down to pick up my bag of crack, my gun fell off of my lap and got lodged between the brake and the gas pedal, forcing me to speed out of control.

16. Hey, is that a 9mm? That's nothing compared to this 44 magnum.

15. Hey, can you give me another one of those full cavity searches?

14. No, YOU assume the position.

13. I'm surprised you stopped me, Dunkin Donuts is having a 3 for 1 special!

12. If I bend over, will I still get a ticket?

11. No, offi, offic, lucifer...I'm not as think you are drunk I am. I swear to dog.

10. No, I don't know how fast I was going. The little needle stops at 110mph.

9. Back off Barney, I've got a piece.

8. But officer, I've got 2 different drivers licenses from 2 different states! Pick ONE!

7. I know I was weaving, but I was trying to hit all the little green men!

6. On the way to the station, let's get a six pack, oh and don't forget the cigs.

5. Come on, write the stupid ticket, the bars close in 20 minutes!

4. Hey, wasn't your daughter a porn queen?

3. How long is this going to take? Your wife is expecting me.

2. So THAT's what those yellow flashing lights in the school zone mean!

AND THE NUMBER ONE THING NOT TO SAY TO A COP WHEN PULLED OVER:

1. What do you use those rubber gloves for anyway?[/FONT]

 

[.lava]

LOL Stacey!! no:19 is just adorable haha



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[stacey bo bacey]

LOL Stacey!! no:19 is just adorable haha



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Hahaa, I like #29 and, well, all of em!

 

[gnomon]

Well I don't know where the resident cop is at. Probably trekking around the outback again.

Here's another plug for kadzbiz's whiparound,
YouTube - Whiparound - Wimmera Mallee Trailer

Seems like a fair enough cop.

 

[stacey bo bacey]

Videos of police brutality. (And yes, I included some nice coppers at the end)


*Some 14 year olds are tackled, choked and arrested by an ******* cop.......FOR SKATEBOARDING. (One of the kids ran which was kinda stupid but that in NO WAY justifies the actions of this policeman).
YouTube - police brutality - go skateboarding day: cop vs skaters

*A bicyclist is straight up shoved off his bike by a cop. FOR WHAT REASON??????
YouTube - Critical Mass Bicyclist Assaulted by NYPD

*UCLA student was attacked, arrested and tasered for not either having or showing his STUDENT ID in the library I guess it was? Incredibly disturbing.
Cops just can't leave well enough alone.
YouTube - UCLA Police Taser Student in Powell

*Cop harasses kids at Inner Harbor in Baltimore for SKATEBOARDING. The cop is a complete douche. He was actually suspended (WITH pay:cover for this.
YouTube - Baltimore cops V.S. skateboarder

*This is really sad. Cops beat up an elderly man (AND THEN CHARGE HIM FOR POLICE BATTERY among other things). Another cop pins a member of the press to a car for videotaping it. Finally a little justice, though. The cops were suspended without pay. :clap
YouTube - Police beat down an old man...

*Young teen arrested for "SKATEBOARDING" The cop was letting them leave then just decides to grab one of em.
YouTube - 13 Year Old Skater Attacked, Arrested!

*(The title is misleading, she doesn't beat him up). Woman cop pushes a teenager into the bushes for SKATEBOARDING. She should be charged how a civilian would if we did that to a cop. BATTERY AND ASSAULT.
YouTube - Lady Police Officer Beats up Skater



Ok that's definitely enough for now.

I think the two most important questions are:

WHY DO COPS CARE SO MUCH ABOUT SKATEBOARDERS????? (honestly, what the hell?!) Yea, maybe it's against the rules or even the law somewhere but DAMN, dude!!!!!!!! It's a chunk of wood on wheels. WHO OR WHAT is being hurt by people skateboarding and WHAT on Earth justifies their attitudes and actions towards skaters?

Why do cops demand SO much respect without giving it in the first place? The one officer at the Inner Harbor in Baltimore says the kid is disrespecting him, his badge and his department. And you're not doing the same by acting like a COMPLETE lunatic and abusing your authority???????? RESPECT someone no matter what their age is and ASK NICELY then maybe, just maybe, you'll get what you're asking for.

On the flip side, some GOOD COPS!!!!!!!!!! Thanks to them for honoring their duty to keep us safe, uphold our rights and give US respect.


*This cop is so nice I just wanna give him a big, fat hug!!!!!!!
YouTube - LAPD at March 15 Hollywood Anonymous Scientology Protest

*This is kinda boring, it's a conversation between a VERY NICE (and hot!!) cop and some guy who was trespassing or something. But worth watching to see how cops SHOULD handle their job.
YouTube - MORE POLICE FOOTAGE ... BUT THIS COP IS VERY NICE

And that's honestly the only two I found. Doesn't mean there's not a lot, people just prolly don't post that as much as the bad ones.





So what do you guys think of these?

 

[stacey bo bacey]

Well I don't know where the resident cop is at. Probably trekking around the outback again.

Here's another plug for kadzbiz's whiparound,
YouTube - Whiparound - Wimmera Mallee Trailer

Seems like a fair enough cop.

Hha, a cop with a sense of humor!!! Nice. In my eyes that totally overrides the fact that he's a cop! I love Aussies.

 

[stacey bo bacey]

Interesting article.

FOXNews.com - Straight Talk: Videotaping Police - Opinion

 

[kadzbiz]

Tada! I'm here guys. I don't know how I missed this thread. Sorry it took me so long to get in on the action.

Wow, some interesting comments arising from this thread Stacey.

Let me just say that there are many differences in the law and rights of police and civilians in Australia compared to America and even within our own states here.

A police officer in my state can asked for your ID if you are suspected of committing a crime, about to commit a crime, or are in the vicinity of where a crime has occurred - and you MUST supply your details or you commit an offence. In turn, a police officer must idenity himself if not in uniform (and we are considered on duty 24/7) and supply his details in writing if requested.

In my state (Victoria) police have the right under the Road Traffic Act to intercept ANY vehicle driving on a public road (we also have the right to conduct a prelimary breath/drug test of a driver of a vehicle being driven ANYWHERE). As part of the roadworthiness, we can inspect a vehicle inside and out when intercepted. This could lead to the discovery of illegal items of course.

Any summary (misdeamour) offence can be arrestable if the suspect fails to confirm identity, continues the offence, etc, but generally they are not arrested and served a summons to appear at court in due course. An indictable (felony) offence is a mandatory arrest and the suspect must be interviewed on tape (soon to be digitally recorded). The suspect has the right to contact, or attempt to contact (unless doing so will be detrimental to the case - ie. the possible destruction of evidence after the contact) a friend or relative, and a legal practitioner prior to the interview. Legal practitioners opt NOT to be present during the interview itself as they can be called as a witness to what was said in the interview, which could go against the suspect - ie. a confession can't then be denied by the lawyer who was present, if you know what I mean.

I do NOT lie to suspects. Some cops do, at their peril. I believe it goes against a cop to be discovered as a liar. As a police negotiator as well, I have my integrity to uphold, otherwise the word would get around that I couldn't be trusted. Of ALL the criminals that I have charged (here, lawyers don't charge suspects, police do, unless victims of minor crimes don't wish to go ahead with their evidence) I have not had a single one that thought I was unfair in how I treated them (oops, there was one nutcase pot-smoking chick that made all these allegations against me that weren't true and found to be lying) and never held any charges I pressed against me. I have even had people I have charged come and assist me in the street when I've dealt with violent offenders and offered their observations for court.

Have I missed anything? Any more questions, I'll do my best to answer them.

And FYI, my next travel project will happen late March early April. Click on my signature and join the mailing list on the contact page.......

 

[kadzbiz]

bump!!

 

[McBell]

ehe
there are no bad cops. there are no bad doctors. there are just bad people who happened to be cops, doctors...ect. they are both scary, really. one with gun, other with lancet...

I disagree.
I know more than one good person who is a lousy cop.

The fact that cops are taking issue with this is highly suspect.

Why?
This thread alone reveals a couple reasons cops wouldn't like to be filmed.
One being that very seldom is the whole indecent caught on tape. Not to mention the angle, distance, quality, etc.

Another being that far to many people think they know about the law, but in fact don't know squat. Laws can and do vary, sometimes to great extremes, from one place to another. There are tons of things that people believe are illegal that just flat out ain't. Driving whilst barefoot is not illegal in any of the 50 states, but I know loads of people who say it is. Another popular misconception is that a cop has to tell a prostitute that they are a cop if they are asked. Fact is they don't. The list goes on and on and on.

Now I am in no way saying that there are not bad cops, corrupt cops, cops on power trips (seen Lakeview Terrace?), etc.

I am merely commenting on the fact that I can understand why those who are doing nothing wrong still do not want to be taped.

 

[stacey bo bacey]

I am merely commenting on the fact that I can understand why those who are doing nothing wrong still do not want to be taped.

I see your point, but don't you think that is something they just have to grin and bear? It's not illegal for us to tape them and they know that. Therefore, they need to put on their big boy/girl britches and suck it up.

You think I wanna kiss a cop's *** every time I get pulled over just so I won't get charged with disorderly conduct? We all gotta deal with things we don't want to.

 

[stacey bo bacey]

Tada! I'm here guys. I don't know how I missed this thread. Sorry it took me so long to get in on the action.

Wow, some interesting comments arising from this thread Stacey.

Let me just say that there are many differences in the law and rights of police and civilians in Australia compared to America and even within our own states here.

A police officer in my state can asked for your ID if you are suspected of committing a crime, about to commit a crime, or are in the vicinity of where a crime has occurred - and you MUST supply your details or you commit an offence. In turn, a police officer must idenity himself if not in uniform (and we are considered on duty 24/7) and supply his details in writing if requested.

In my state (Victoria) police have the right under the Road Traffic Act to intercept ANY vehicle driving on a public road (we also have the right to conduct a prelimary breath/drug test of a driver of a vehicle being driven ANYWHERE). As part of the roadworthiness, we can inspect a vehicle inside and out when intercepted. This could lead to the discovery of illegal items of course.

Any summary (misdeamour) offence can be arrestable if the suspect fails to confirm identity, continues the offence, etc, but generally they are not arrested and served a summons to appear at court in due course. An indictable (felony) offence is a mandatory arrest and the suspect must be interviewed on tape (soon to be digitally recorded). The suspect has the right to contact, or attempt to contact (unless doing so will be detrimental to the case - ie. the possible destruction of evidence after the contact) a friend or relative, and a legal practitioner prior to the interview. Legal practitioners opt NOT to be present during the interview itself as they can be called as a witness to what was said in the interview, which could go against the suspect - ie. a confession can't then be denied by the lawyer who was present, if you know what I mean.

I do NOT lie to suspects. Some cops do, at their peril. I believe it goes against a cop to be discovered as a liar. As a police negotiator as well, I have my integrity to uphold, otherwise the word would get around that I couldn't be trusted. Of ALL the criminals that I have charged (here, lawyers don't charge suspects, police do, unless victims of minor crimes don't wish to go ahead with their evidence) I have not had a single one that thought I was unfair in how I treated them (oops, there was one nutcase pot-smoking chick that made all these allegations against me that weren't true and found to be lying) and never held any charges I pressed against me. I have even had people I have charged come and assist me in the street when I've dealt with violent offenders and offered their observations for court.

Have I missed anything? Any more questions, I'll do my best to answer them.

And FYI, my next travel project will happen late March early April. Click on my signature and join the mailing list on the contact page.......

Good cop! Would you like a donut? No seriously, it's good to hear you take your job seriously. It's more than just having a gun and being able to tell people what to do. It's about having integrity and a desire to serve and protect (both our bodies and our rights). :woohoo: for you.

And thanks for taking the time to answer the questions in the thread.

I still severely dislike and distrust cops. But I'm trying not to be so gung-ho about it.

 

[McBell]

You think I wanna kiss a cop's *** every time I get pulled over just so I won't get charged with disorderly conduct? We all gotta deal with things we don't want to.

Where the hell did this come from?
How could you possibly get that I am saying to kiss cop arse from my post?

 

[kadzbiz]

Good cop! Would you like a donut? No seriously, it's good to hear you take your job seriously. It's more than just having a gun and being able to tell people what to do. It's about having integrity and a desire to serve and protect (both our bodies and our rights). :woohoo: for you.

And thanks for taking the time to answer the questions in the thread.

I still severely dislike and distrust cops. But I'm trying not to be so gung-ho about it.

Not really into donuts. IMO, cop departments around the world would indeed vary, from state to state and country to country, so depending upon how they are trained and what they are told by their hierachy, it would not surprise me if there were entire departments that we "meaner" than others, so a citizen could get a very jaded view of cops depending on where they lived.

Where the hell did this come from?
How could you possibly get that I am saying to kiss cop arse from my post?

Hey, I like getting my arse kissed Mestemia

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

You think I wanna kiss a cop's *** every time I get pulled over just so I won't get charged with disorderly conduct? We all gotta deal with things we don't want to.

Or... you could do what I do: drive a minivan and never get pulled over again.

kadzbiz might be able to confirm or deny this, but I've come to the conclusion that cops simply can't see minivans. Several times now, I've seen the same situation play out:

- a minivan is driving along at the same speed as a lowered Civic (or sometimes actually overtaking the Civic).
- the two cars pass a speed trap.
- the cop steps out or pulls out, stops the Civic, and doesn't do anything about the minivan.
- the minivan drives off scot-free, leaving the Civic at the side of the road with the cop.

Not really into donuts. IMO, cop departments around the world would indeed vary, from state to state and country to country, so depending upon how they are trained and what they are told by their hierachy, it would not surprise me if there were entire departments that we "meaner" than others, so a citizen could get a very jaded view of cops depending on where they lived.

And also which cops they're dealing with, even in one area.

I don't know how things are set up in Australia, but in my part of southern Ontario, the OPP Highway Rangers patrol the provincial highways (and therefore do the lion's share of things like speed traps) and the City or Region police are responsible for everything else. I think that for many people, their main exposure to the police comes when they're pulled over on the highway, but the cop doing that won't be the one who responds to a home break-in or a rowdy person at a local bar.

 

[kadzbiz]

Or... you could do what I do: drive a minivan and never get pulled over again. kadzbiz might be able to confirm or deny this, but I've come to the conclusion that cops simply can't see minivans.

.....for many people, their main exposure to the police comes when they're pulled over on the highway, but the cop doing that won't be the one who responds to a home break-in or a rowdy person at a local bar.

What's a minivan? Ha ha ha.

Exposure to cops is the same here. Sometimes we call traffic cops jury killers. if u get my meaning. They also get called concrete heads and a bunch of other colorful things.

 

[Valjean]

Oddly enough, I ride a Harley-Davidson, and I've only been pulled over once in the past twenty years.