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Any musicians in the house?

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Yeah, I want to learn how to read and write music again. I knew when I was little when I took piano, but I have all but lost it. It's amazing to think that some people can read and write music like they do English (or their native language).

And the comparison you make is stronger than you think.
Musicians have allowed themselves to be wired to machine...
to see what part of the brain does it best.

Turns out, your speech and your music are linked.
For a musician, it is communication.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
What does that mean? :D

it's a music recording software...
so instead of using tape, the music converted into a digital medium...where one can do almost anything to it.

you probably don't know this but there are programs out there that can actually tune guitar chords after it was recorded...
it's nuts...
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Hmm. Guitar, Bass, Drums, Mandolin, Banjo, Ukulele, (though I've sold most of the stuff I've owned off). If it doesn't have a bow or required my tar soaked lungs to push lots of air, I can figure it given some time. I really love piano and wish I had one. I can play pretty well, as long as I'm freestyling and playing in G Sharp. I also play drums. Right now in a punkband, but I'm trying to get a little more complicated of a project together. It is difficult to find people to play, especially when you are trying to write weird, time-consuming material. Also, have loved computers ever since I realized I could make noise with them, around 17! or so. At about 19 I started composing computer generated albums, mostly hand arranged in Audacity. Have experimented with acoustics and computers a lot as well, and find much pleasure in doing so, even when making songs nonreplicable. I think I myself more of a composer and recording artists now a days, but I still do quite a bit of performance, and make little bits of money. Don't ever expect to get on a label or signed. Have also used some freesourced materials, like Soundplant and Sawcutter, which are interesting enough in their limitations, causing all sorts of things. Use a ton of Ableton Live nowadays and find it much more satisfying to work with than Reason or Fruity Loops. Haven't used Protools, but a friend recorded an old album of ours on with it, and it seemed pretty amazing when looking at it. Unfortunately, I'm a lack of funds for upgrades and maintenance for these things now-a-days.

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dawny0826

Mother Heathen
it's a music recording software...
so instead of using tape, the music converted into a digital medium...where one can do almost anything to it.

you probably don't know this but there are programs out there that can actually tune guitar chords after it was recorded...
it's nuts...

It sounds like fun. Unfortunately, my talents are immensely limited. I can sing well. I'm poetic and I know some piano and can read sheet music but I think I'd suck horribly at this sort of stuff but it looks like mad fun...
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
haha, same here, only it's renoise for me :D

I had to learn the recorder in school though, and I think I would still be able to play "la cucaracha", but that's about it ^^

funny....

i'm not familiar with renoise
what do you use it for re-mixing?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Yeah, I want to learn how to read and write music again. I knew when I was little when I took piano, but I have all but lost it. It's amazing to think that some people can read and write music like they do English (or their native language).

I'm interested in writing music. Need to get some computer software, so I can quickly do the process, instead of trying to figure out every mark myself. Don't know about reading it though. I don't really read music, I just write it and play it.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
It sounds like fun. Unfortunately, my talents are immensely limited. I can sing well. I'm poetic and I know some piano and can read sheet music but I think I'd suck horribly at this sort of stuff but it looks like mad fun...

It is insanely fun.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
I'm interested in writing music. Need to get some computer software, so I can quickly do the process, instead of trying to figure out every mark myself. Don't know about reading it though. I don't really read music, I just write it and play it.

thats what i do...
mostly for tv/film music libraries...it's a great way to work.

i'm not sure i understand why you need a computer software to write music if you're already using reason...?

i thought reason was the same type of thing as pro tools
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
Three of us would get together and do Simon and Garfunkel stuff.
I could...in the day...hit those high notes.

Nowadays, I've developed some fingerpicking that I should record.
Too bad I can't write it down.
It would be difficult even if I knew how.
Too many subtleties.

record it then... :)
why would you need to write it down?

do you have garage band or quicktime or some sort of recording application that can enable you to record your ideas?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
thats what i do...
mostly for tv/film music libraries...it's a great way to work.

i'm not sure i understand why you need a computer software to write music if you're already using reason...?

i thought reason was the same type of thing as pro tools

I don't use reason. It's kinda annoying, mainly because it's formatted as if it were the actual hardware on a rack. I have little experience with this stuff outside a recording studio I worked with a bit for a year like 8 years ago. I use Ableton live. I can write the music, but I want to be able to easily convert it to standard notation (can't find any plugin that reads piano rolls and converts them), so I need to find some classy music notating software, and then figure out how I can print that stuff on a different computer, via pdf, or whatnot. I could care less for my own purposes, but me girlfriend (like girl) is a classically trained piano since 4, so all she knows is reading and performing. So I need to get music I write into a format she can read. :D Someone should of just given her an Ableton class.:yes:

Oh, and I want your job. I wish I could do something pertaining to movies. My best friend lives in Austin and has recently finished film school and is editing commercials and what not. I'll be moving there after I'm done with my useless degree so that we could work together. I'd love to do stuff for movies. Motifs are so fun and easy to write, and coming up with any feeling is really easy to do.
 

not nom

Well-Known Member
funny....

i'm not familiar with renoise
what do you use it for re-mixing?

sometimes, somewhat, yeah. it's so much easier to play with a loop of "real music" and add on to that, than to make something decent from scratch, and so much fun. but you can do anything with it really. well, I guess it's best suited for dance music.

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keith303 - stuck in the beehive - (polka/pop/trance drum&bass) renoise 2.0 - YouTube

it comes from a long, proud tradition, too.. here is protracker on the amiga, with a song from '91 IIRC:

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Amiga music: Tip & Firefox - Enigma - YouTube

and while I'm nerding out:

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Great Giana Sisters Intro C64 (Fasttracker 2 XM) - YouTube

^ I had soooooo much fun with that program :D though I don't miss all those limitations, not for one second.

yay, I just discovered the coolest thing ever: Sonant Live - editor haha!
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
I don't use reason. It's kinda annoying, mainly because it's formatted as if it were the actual hardware on a rack.
sorry my bad :eek:

I have little experience with this stuff outside a recording studio I worked with a bit for a year like 8 years ago. I use Ableton live. I can write the music, but I want to be able to easily convert it to standard notation (can't find any plugin that reads piano rolls and converts them), so I need to find some classy music notating software, and then figure out how I can print that stuff on a different computer, via pdf, or whatnot. I could care less for my own purposes, but me girlfriend (like girl) is a classically trained piano since 4, so all she knows is reading and performing. So I need to get music I write into a format she can read. :D Someone should of just given her an Ableton class.:yes:
gotcha...

Oh, and I want your job. I wish I could do something pertaining to movies. My best friend lives in Austin and has recently finished film school and is editing commercials and what not. I'll be moving there after I'm done with my useless degree so that we could work together. I'd love to do stuff for movies. Motifs are so fun and easy to write, and coming up with any feeling is really easy to do.

that is a great thing indeed.
you should definitely get into libraries...great source of back end income.
have you heard of TAXI?
i recently was at their composers convention and kevin kiner who composes for csi miami and star wars: clone wars ...scored music to a scene and it was really nice watching someone who has reached that particular status do what we do... it wasn't entirely smooth sailing so i felt better about how i operate
;)
 

not nom

Well-Known Member
well what can I say, I don't even play an instrument :sorry1:

just like I never could be bothered with photography before it went digital :D
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
well what can I say, I don't even play an instrument :sorry1:

just like I never could be bothered with photography before it went digital :D

me too.
;)


edit:
i disagree, you do play an instrument :)
our creativity isn't limited to conventional instruments
 
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