Any tips for Bible Study?

[Tumah]

Tell me this, how could the child be identified and named it the mother was nhot a virgin? A young girl having a son would be a common event in Jerusalem at that time.

That part was not the sign, that was a statement of fact.

 

[omega2xx]

Not surprised.


Actually, I suspect that you understand none of them.


It's called "willful ignorance."

You could overcome it with just a little better understanding of the passage and the meaning of alma.

 

[omega2xx]

That part was not the sign, that was a statement of fact.

IOW you don' know but thought blowing some smoke would hide it.

 

[Daisies4me]

I'll be happy to. They got the pronunciation from the Masoretic text.
The difference being that we know the Masoretes used substitute vowel points for the name of G-d.

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what you "know" is that the Jewish leaders fabricated a 'superstition' to keep the Divine Name a secret, because they had been rejected by Jehovah, because they had rejected His Son, and instigated His death. Jehovah then made a "new covenant" with spiritual "Israel" which was to come out of 'all nations, tribes and tongues', when they accepted Jesus as the Mediator of the New Covenant and formed the Christian Congregation. Jeremiah 31:31-34.

And that's the truth of the matter. Reject the Name of God, reject God Himself. All who worship the True God know that 'the Name of Jehovah is a strong tower into which the righteous run...'Proverbs 18:10.
Have a nice day

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

You could overcome it with just a little better understanding of the passage and the meaning of alma.

<yawn>

If and when you (mistakenly) feel competent to debate the matter, feel free to ask someone to PM me. Until then, you're way past due for the ignore-list.​

</yawn>

 

[Tumah]

IOW you don' know but thought blowing some smoke would hide it.

Uh, no. That's just what it says. "Behold the young woman is pregnant and she will give birth to a son." The part that's the sign is what comes after that - what will happen with this son she's pregnant with.

 

[Tumah]

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Could it be that they have 'awakened' spiritually enough to recognize the falsehoods and doctrines of men that caused the God of Israel to reject the collective descendants of Jacob,or Israel, the Pharisees , Sadducees, et.al., as His 'chosen' people, and have the Mosaic Law Covenant fulfilled by the death of his perfect Son, and then Mediated the "new Covenant, not written on stone tablets, but written on hearts", Spiritual Israel ?

You can call it whatever you like. That still doesn't mean that they know much about the religion they left behind.

Jeremiah 31:31-34.

The verses here disprove Christianity. Why would you bring them?

Bible study is very beneficial for seeking truths about the Creator, God Almighty, who's Name is Jehovah.

And?

Exodus 6:3 , Isaiah 12:2: 26:4

Ex. 3:13-14

 

[Tumah]

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what you "know" is that the Jewish leaders fabricated a 'superstition' to keep the Divine Name a secret, because they had been rejected by Jehovah,

This doesn't follow. I reject your name, but I still recall that its Daisies4me.

because they had rejected His Son,

That's impossible. Ex. 4:22.

and instigated His death

We didn't commit suicide.

Jehovah then made a "new covenant" with spiritual "Israel" which was to come out of 'all nations, tribes and tongues', when they accepted Jesus as the Mediator of the New Covenant and formed the Christian Congregation. Jeremiah 31:31-34.

That's not what it says there.

And that's the truth of the matter.

That has yet to be proven.

Reject the Name of God, reject God Himself.

This doesn't follow.

All who worship the True God know that 'the Name of Jehovah is a strong tower into which the righteous run...'Proverbs 18:10.

How can they know that when the letter J isn't even in the name...?
Have a nice day[/QUOTE]
And you!

 

[Daisies4me]

You can call it whatever you like. That still doesn't mean that they know much about the religion they left behind.


The verses here disprove Christianity. Why would you bring them?


And?


Ex. 3:13-14

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actually, what Jeremiah speaks to is the end of the Law Covenant, and the coming New Covenant. Which is mediated by Jesus, over those who accepted Jesus as the Anointed One of God, the King-designate of the coming Kingdom. The new covenant, unlike the old one, is to be written , not on stone tablets, but on hearts, and is 'different' from the covenant God made with , the 'old, obsolete' covenant of laws given thru Moses.

Let's not omit Exodus 3:15, which read, "Then God said once more to Moses: 'this is what you are to say to the sons of Israel, "Jehovah the God of your forefathers , the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you," This is my name to time indefinite, and this is the memorial of me to generation after generation.'

 

[Daisies4me]

This doesn't follow. I reject your name, but I still recall that its Daisies4me.

That's impossible. Ex. 4:22.


We didn't commit suicide.

That's not what it says there.


That has yet to be proven.

This doesn't follow.

How can they know that when the letter J isn't even in the name...?
Have a nice day

And you![/QUOTE]
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when translated into English as well as many other languages, the "J" certainly is a valid consonant.
suppose you have no problem pronouncing Jeremiah, Jonah, Joel, Joshua, etc., eh?
where did that "J" come from?

 

[URAVIP2ME]

You can start in the bible wherever God is leading you. The first book I started with was Leviticus! which many would steer you away from but, with God's blessing, you will learn and be enriched. I think the best advice is to practice what you learn, apply God's Word to your life. This is not always the easiest thing to do..in fact, it will most likely be the hardest thing you do! Pray for help and guidance. Ask God for a humble heart to hear His Word and put it into action. You'll make mistakes. Ask for forgiveness. Love those whom God has brought into your life. Pray, pray, pray...because without God you can do nothing.

I did Not start with Leviticus, but ' Leviticus chapter 19 ' is a favorite.
I started out with the smaller books near Revelation, and especially liked the book of James.
Jesus too said to pray as mentioned at Luke 11:13 B, so I too think we should always pray, pray, pray even before starting a day's work. It also was Not always easy for David to practice what he learned, so David prayed for a humble heart, a pure heart, at Psalms 51:10 to be put in action. Plus, I agree that without God we can do nothing as Jesus also believed at John 5:19.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

It's easy. Read it yourself. Start from the first verse on page 1, think about it, start the next verse. Think about it and go on. Then start reading other versions of Bibles. Catholic Bibles have got 7 Books more Protestant Bibles.
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I have found that the apocryphal books ( as mentioned above ) are out of harmony with the '66' books of Bible canon.
For example: Scripture teaches sin entered into our world through Adam. Adam ate second. Adam did Not have to eat (Romans 5:12,19). So to me, the 'Catholic book' of Sirach at Sirach 25:23 saying that " In woman (Eve) was sin's beginning, and because of her (Eve) we all die." is very wrong. Also, Sirach 25:12 saying the worst of all evils is that of a woman is very wrong.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain...."
On account of this, the Masoretes ensured that the Name of the LORD would not be taken in vain by substituting the vowel marks for Adonai and putting them under the letters in the running text (this is called Qere {what is to be read} as opposed to Ketiv {what is to be written} The Hebrew text, then. contains the Ketiv but uses the vowels of the Qere and this has led to the obviously incorrect pronunciation of the Name as "Jehovah' (in older English, "J" had a "y" sound).

A Jewish professor told me that Yahweh, as used in Catholic teachings, is a 2-syllable word, when YHWH is a 3-syllable word. So, he believed the more acceptable pronunciation of God's name is 3-syllable name 'Yehowah'.
Abbreviated form of God's name is Yah, and that is where we get HaleluYah from. ( praise Yah )
The Latinized form would be Praise Jah - Psalms 89:8, So the English from the Latin comes Jehovah, or the most commonly acceptable English pronunciation of God's Hebrew name Yehowah'.
'Yeh' coming from the Tetragrammaton.

 

[pearl]

A Jewish professor told me that Yahweh, as used in Catholic teachings, is a 2-syllable word, when YHWH

This is correct to a point. After Vatican II and the liturgical changes some began using 'Yahweh', but when the Vatican realized this they instructed Catholic bishops conferences around the world from the Vatican's top liturgical body, the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Sacraments, by an explicit "directive" of Pope Benedict XVI. "In recent years, the practice has crept in of pronouncing the God of Israel's proper name," the letter noted, referring to the four-consonant Hebrew Tetragrammaton, YHWH.
The Vatican has reiterated a directive that the name of God revealed in the tetragrammaton YHWH is not to be pronounced in Catholic liturgy or music. Catholics at worship should neither sing nor pronounce the name of God as "Yahweh", citing the authority of Jewish and Christian practice.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

..., my question is, how does a person do bible studies? If it helps any, I'll be focusing on the Old Testament rather than the New Testament, at least for now.

@SearchingForGod, sorry that your thread got derailed. but it happens. Do you have any other questions about pursuing Torah study?

Finally. I'd be interested in hearing why you wish to focus on the early Hebrew scriptures.

 

[Thief]

None of the Gospels are given in chronological order. Each gospel has a central theme and some thing are not included to emphasize that theme. Where is the mistranslation? Which words were mistranslated?

the mistranslation happens with every preaching
no two people read ANY script exactly the same way
no two people receive ANY script to the same meaning

and i am pointing out the variations obvious
the chain of events and the details.....one gospel to another

as if each author saw a different Man

 

[URAVIP2ME]

This is correct to a point. After Vatican II and the liturgical changes some began using 'Yahweh', but when the Vatican realized this they instructed Catholic bishops conferences around the world from the Vatican's top liturgical body, the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Sacraments, by an explicit "directive" of Pope Benedict XVI. "In recent years, the practice has crept in of pronouncing the God of Israel's proper name," the letter noted, referring to the four-consonant Hebrew Tetragrammaton, YHWH.
The Vatican has reiterated a directive that the name of God revealed in the tetragrammaton YHWH is not to be pronounced in Catholic liturgy or music. Catholics at worship should neither sing nor pronounce the name of God as "Yahweh", citing the authority of Jewish and Christian practice.

I know in the 70's there was a Roman Catholic hymm or song in part that said, " Peace to Zion, Yahweh's people...."
Perhaps that was said because Jesus said that God's name should be hallowed.
If John 17:6 is correct ( I think it is ) Jesus said he manifested God's name to others.
and at John 17:26 that Jesus declared God's name, and will declare it......
To me, Jesus would have to have known his Father's name in order to declare it, or make His name known.

 

[Thief]

I know in the 70's there was a Roman Catholic hymm or song in part that said, " Peace to Zion, Yahweh's people...."
Perhaps that was said because Jesus said that God's name should be hallowed.
If John 17:6 is correct ( I think it is ) Jesus said he manifested God's name to others.
and at John 17:26 that Jesus declared God's name, and will declare it......
To me, Jesus would have to have known his Father's name in order to declare it, or make His name known.

when asking God....Face to face (so to speak)
Moses wanted to know.....with tablets in hand
'the people will want a Name....Who's law is this?'

and the Lord said unto Moses....
Tell the people ...I AM!.....and they with understanding will know Who's law this is.

you mean THAT Name?

 

[roger1440]

Uh, no. That's just what it says. "Behold the young woman is pregnant and she will give birth to a son." The part that's the sign is what comes after that - what will happen with this son she's pregnant with.

True, and not 700 years after, LOL. If it was a virgin birth it happened around the year 732 BC. You would think Isaiah would have devoted more then a few measly verses to a virgin birth. Unless of course virgin births happen frequently and wasn't worth mentioning.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

when asking God....Face to face (so to speak)
Moses wanted to know.....with tablets in hand
'the people will want a Name....Who's law is this?'
and the Lord said unto Moses....
Tell the people ...I AM!.....and they with understanding will know Who's law this is.
you mean THAT Name?

The "I am" part is that God will do. "I am" is Not the Tetragrammaton (YHWH)

No, Not first with Moses, but please notice with Abraham at Genesis 22:14 where in KJV English God's name is Jehovah.

Now please turn to Exodus 6:2-3 in connection to Moses knowing that God's name is Jehovah.