Apparently - Two State Solution is not Palestinian Desire.

[Jayhawker Soule]

I truly feel that more effort must be put into understanding their mindsets and working from there.

Dialogue ...

Q - Hey, Ali, Salwa, any thoughts about a two-state solution?​

A - Not at the moment. But could you give us a hand with this rubble? We're trying to find our twins.​

Some questions are untimely.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Finally you get it, the destruction of Israel is and always has been.

Few things are as conducive to the destruction of Israel as are pathetically ignorant comments such as this.

 

[Debater Slayer]

You did not ask me, but that is IMO a very, very relevant question all the same. Forgive me for attempting to answer it then.

I want to believe that the two-state solution is possible. I fear and become horrified by the indications that many in the support base of the current Israeli government are simply not interested in pursuing it.

At the same time, I suspect that the challenges involved in even making a honest, solid attempt at gauging the wishes of the Palestinians are way too formidable, at least at the current time.

I sincerely wonder which form that evidence might conceivably take. Who could express that support for a two-state solution, and how would we learn that it is representative?

I strongly suspect that solid work is required at establishing better living conditions and infrastructure for those communities before trust in their political representation can be achieved. Starting, with course, with real assurance that they will not be blasted out of existence altogether...

Yes, that would probably influence their opinions as well. I can't say I find that a drawback.

But I fear that it will be the hardest of sells.

I largely agree. I think it is an irresponsible distortion for some random "influencer" to claim any pretense of gauging sentiments and opinions on such a consequential question during wartime—in an unsystematic and haphazard manner to boot—when the people being "surveyed" have been watching their family, friends, and compatriots get killed and maimed for over nine months.

I think that any opinions on that question under these circumstances may be highly inflamed, intenese, and quite likely to change under different circumstances. Taking them as final or representative of a majority, let alone when they're collected by some random individual, and then using them as a gotcha seems to me an act of fishing in troubled waters.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

But let me flip around the question here: if current evidence demonstrated that a majority of Palestinians supported a two-state solution, would you support that solution yourself? Why or why not?

Sorry, my friend. I somehow missed the question. The answer is: absolutely, first and foremost because I support the Palestinian right to self-determination.

 

[Godobeyer]

Maybe that is why it won’t work?

Influencer went to the West Bank to see if Palestinians support Hamas – he almost didn’t make it out alive

Influencer Zach Sage Fox traveled to the West Bank to see if Palestinian people truly support the Hamas terror group, but he almost didn’t make it out alive.

www.foxnews.com

Fox news?
It's not pro-israel.

Hamas in thier view is resistance against racist regime of Israel, the sellters occupied West Bank by protection of Israel army.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Finally you get it, the destruction of Israel is and always has been.

All it takes is to one read through the Hamas Charter , and yeah it's pretty well spelled out they will settle for nothing less than the destruction of Israel.

 

[Kenny]

Not in a very good position to tell one way or the other, but I have seen plenty of claims that, indeed, the Palestinians may not want a two-state solution.

It is not difficult to support the claim that they had been offered the opportunity several times since at least the 1940s and never found it good enough.

There is doubtlessly a lot of applicable nuance and circunstances that I can't even begin to guess, but I am under the impression that many Palestinians will feel offended by the idea that Israel might be accepted as a lasting, legitimate State.

Very good.

Decades of blood and propaganda probably have reinforced that feeling. And it can't help that so many of them have lost family and friends to the conflict and blame Israel - perhaps even the abstract idea of the existence of Israel - for that.

This so true. And certainly every life is important and the removal thereof is difficult to work through.

Hopefully, like the US relationship between Germany and Japan, it can one day be overcome.

 

[Kenny]

Fox news?
It's not pro-israel.

Hamas in thier view is resistance against racist regime of Israel, the sellters occupied West Bank by protection of Israel army.

It isn’t fox news. It is an independent reporter. Fox news simply ran it.

 

[LuisDantas]

Fox news?
It's not pro-israel.

Hamas in thier view is resistance against racist regime of Israel, the sellters occupied West Bank by protection of Israel army.

Are you sure about that?

 

[Godobeyer]

It isn’t fox news. It is an independent reporter. Fox news simply ran it.

Ok.
West Bank is belong to Palestinians, by peace deal with Israel.

Now Israel occupied most of it, made the life of Palestinians there like hell, by destruction their homes and killing.

If you seek for truth, you can google or YouTube ,by neutral.

 

[LuisDantas]

All it takes is to one read through the Hamas Charter , and yeah it's pretty well spelled out they will settle for nothing less than the destruction of Israel.

That is certainly disturbing, and one of the reasons why I think better attention to the wishes and feelings of the Palestinians is required.

 

[Godobeyer]

Are you sure about that?

Spoiler: Fox news lie about 40 behead Babies

 

[LuisDantas]

Spoiler: Fox news lie about 40 behead Babies

Far from me to defend Fox News' reputation. They do not deserve it. At all.

But I may have misunderstood you previously. I thought you had said that Fox News is not Pro-Israel?

 

[Godobeyer]

I think you have no clue about what happening there.
Western media not shown the suffering of Palestinians.

 

[Godobeyer]

Far from me to defend Fox News' reputation. They do not deserve it. At all.

But I may have misunderstood you previously. I thought you had said that Fox News is not Pro-Israel?

Sorry wrong typing.
I forget to add question mark.
Indeed most of Western media pro-israel that's what made Israel crimes acceptable .

Listen to this video, you may understand other view.

Spoiler: bassem youcef challenge western media.

 

[LuisDantas]

I think you have no clue about what happening there.
Western media not shown the suffering of Palestinians.

Not nearly as much as Al Jazeera, I expect.

But some. It has not gone unmentioned.

It is a very good thing that we have access to Al Jazeera.

 

[Nakosis]

Maybe that is why it won’t work?

Influencer went to the West Bank to see if Palestinians support Hamas – he almost didn’t make it out alive

Influencer Zach Sage Fox traveled to the West Bank to see if Palestinian people truly support the Hamas terror group, but he almost didn’t make it out alive.

www.foxnews.com

IMO, they ought to have one state were everyone is equally represented. A culture of ethic division is never beneficial.

 

[Godobeyer]

Not nearly as much as Al Jazeera, I expect.

But some. It has not gone unmentioned.

It is a very good thing that we have access to Al Jazeera.

Don't think you right in this.
I know media in general is oriented by governments and regimes including Aljazeera.

For this war.
Aljazeera don't lie about Israel, as Fox news lie about Palestinians.

 

[Jimmy]

The only way forward is to cast aside blame and for Palestinians and Israelis to live in peace with one another. It’s either that or fighting. That’s a fact. That I know. There is no debating that.

 

[LuisDantas]

Don't think you right in this.
I know media in general is oriented by governments and regimes including Aljazeera.

Al Jazeera is partially funded by Qatar's government, if I am not mistaken.

But it is at least an exageration to say that media in general is so aligned to governments.

For this war.
Aljazeera don't lie about Israel, as Fox news lie about Palestinians.

I don't doubt that for a second.