Are babies, "enemies of God" in your faith tradition?

[David Davidovich]

I hate the preaching.

So, what is that supposed to mean?

 

[David Davidovich]

The purpose is to preach original sin and catch fish.

It seems more like its repelling fish because to me, it makes them sound like fanatics. Plus, I'm guessing that probably some of the rank and file feel this way too.

 

[David Davidovich]

The purpose is to preach original sin and catch fish.

And for a person who doesn't know that much about Jehovah's Witnesses, how can you say that for sure?

 

[firedragon]

So, what is that supposed to mean?

It means David, I hate that guys preaching.

 

[David Davidovich]

Unattended kids eating an apple is evil? No, it's not. It's what kids do. I recall studies from the past in which children were left alone in a room with cookies and forbidden to eat them. They did anyway, because that's what kids do. The following is similar, but it involves not a threat, but a reward for delayed gratification. The kids predictably failed there as well:

I'm guessing that JWs don't expect their kids to be like that in their paradise earth after the end of their 1000-year reign. But instead, they will be perfectly behaved perfect children.

 

[firedragon]

It seems more like its repelling fish because to me, it makes them sound like fanatics. Plus, I'm guessing that probably some of the rank and file feel this way too.

Maybe.

And for a person who doesn't know that much about Jehovah's Witnesses, how can you say that for sure?

Nah. I didn't make general comments about all Jehovahs witnesses. That's bigotry.

I spoke about this particular preacher in the video in the thread.

I don't make conjecture about people like you just did above. I think you are just looking for some thing to argue about so you are prying to create a new topic to argue. It won't work because I am not interested in bigotry or any genetic fallacies.

 

[David Davidovich]

It means David, I hate that guys preaching.

Well, I've always wondered if something was wrong with him.

 

[David Davidovich]

I don't make conjecture about people like you just did above.

But how do you know what I said was conjecture?

I think you are just looking for some thing to argue about so you are prying to create a new topic to argue.

Well, no because this is thread is in the Religious Debate forum and not the Religious Q&A forum.

It won't work because I am not interested in bigotry or any genetic fallacies.

Well, I guess you have a point because it would be your bigotry not mine. But how could there be any genetic fallacies since what is being said involves JWs' current doctrine?

 

[David Davidovich]

That was taken out of context.

PS - Is the sentence "In my opinion" part of your signature? It really doesn't make sense in the post.

Please explain how?

 

[David Davidovich]

Psalm 51:5 - Against You, You only, have I sinned and done what is evil in Your sight, so that You may be proved right when You speak and blameless when You judge. 5 Surely I was brought forth in iniquity; I was sinful when my mother conceived me.
Romans 5:12 - "When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned."
Sin entered the world, the Bible says. We were brought forth in iniquity, sinful upon conception. Them's the facts.
The psalmist realized there is a confined setting to sin. It's in our makeup, can't help it. Only forgiveness from God can set us straight IF we go His way.
(The way is narrow, said Jesus -- few would find it.)

Yes, that is what those verses say, however, what is the point of Lett's specification? It's almost as if the regular Jehovah's Witnesses can't come to that conclusion on their own from reading Psalms 51:5 or Romans 5:12, and Lett had to make that a point in JW doctrine.

 

[David Davidovich]

I don't make conjecture about people like you just did above. I think you are just looking for some thing to argue about so you are prying to create a new topic to argue. It won't work because I am not interested in bigotry or any genetic fallacies.

I apologize, firedragon. I didn't mean to put the fire out in your dragon.

 

[firedragon]

Well, I've always wondered if something was wrong with him.

I don't know who this guy is. I am not a person who likes this type of preaching anyway.

But how do you know what I said was conjecture?

Yeah. You said "for a person who doesn't know that much about Jehovah's Witnesses". Conjecture.

Well, no because this is thread is in the Religious Debate forum and not the Religious Q&A forum.

True. But what do you want to debate about with me?

Well, I guess you have a point because it would be your bigotry not mine. But how could there be any genetic fallacies since what is being said involves JWs' current doctrine?

Bigotry is a genetic fallacy. And my comment was not about their doctrine, but about this guy's preaching.

 

[David Davidovich]

Yeah. You said "for a person who doesn't know that much about Jehovah's Witnesses". Conjecture.

So, do you?

True. But what do you want to debate about with me?

You're the one who brought up debating.

 

[firedragon]

So, do you?

That's irrelevant to the thread and me. So please open a new thread to discuss "are you unaware completely of JW's".

You're the one who brought up debating.

You mean the word "debate"? Or "A Debate"?

 

[David Davidovich]

That's irrelevant to the thread and me. So please open a new thread to discuss "are you unaware completely of JW's".

That's a strawman, but would you participate?

 

[David Davidovich]

Vee said: ↑
That was taken out of context.

Please explain how?

*crickets chirping*

 

[David Davidovich]

YoursTrue said: ↑
Psalm 51:5 - Against You, You only, have I sinned and done what is evil in Your sight, so that You may be proved right when You speak and blameless when You judge. 5 Surely I was brought forth in iniquity; I was sinful when my mother conceived me.
Romans 5:12 - "When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned."
Sin entered the world, the Bible says. We were brought forth in iniquity, sinful upon conception. Them's the facts.
The psalmist realized there is a confined setting to sin. It's in our makeup, can't help it. Only forgiveness from God can set us straight IF we go His way.
(The way is narrow, said Jesus -- few would find it.)

Yes, that is what those verses say, however, what is the point of Lett's specification? It's almost as if the regular Jehovah's Witnesses can't come to that conclusion on their own from reading Psalms 51:5 or Romans 5:12, and Lett had to make that a point in JW doctrine.

*crickets chirping*

 

[firedragon]

That's a strawman, but would you participate?

If you open a thread, people will participate.

 

[David Davidovich]

If you open a thread, people will participate.

But that's not what I asked you. I asked you if you would participate.

 

[firedragon]

But that's not what I asked you. I asked you if you would participate.

Tag me. And of course I will participate. Relevant topic though.