Are humans animals?

[lilithu]

Define animal.

(Biologically, yes of course, humans are animals. But there are clearly social contexts in which the word "animal" is meant to connote animals aside from humans. For example, when I buy a box of animal crackers, I am not expecting to see doughy likenesses of humans in the box.)

 

[YmirGF]

Define animal.

(Biologically, yes of course, humans are animals. But there are clearly social contexts in which the word "animal" is meant to connote animals aside from humans. For example, when I buy a box of animal crackers, I am not expecting to see doughy likenesses of humans in the box.)

I am meaning "animal" in the context of being a member of the animal kingdom, more specifically the branch known as primates.

 

[methylatedghosts]

I'm a little confused as to why there would be any confusion on the subject...

 

[Gharib]

why don't we ask the question;

"are animals humans"

and see what the outcome would be

 

[Gharib]

that poll metre isn't working properly

 

[lilithu]

I'm a little confused as to why there would be any confusion on the subject...

My guess is that someone was claiming that there is a difference between humans and animals.

Which is why I wanted to know what YmirGF meant by "animal."

Because people can believe that there is a difference between humans and animals (as in animals aside from humans) while at the same time believing that humans are animals (as in a member of the kingdom Animalia).

 

[Azakel]

why don't we ask the question;

"are animals humans"

and see what the outcome would be

Well let's see, no they aren't. Why? I would guess it's because Human is the "nickname"(for lack of a better term on my part) we gave are species.
We are: Homo sapiens sapiens aka Humans...
Just like... Canis lupus familiaris...or aka Dogs
and one more.. Panthera tigris... aka Tiger
(Hell this makes sense to me wounder if it does to anyone else)

that poll metre isn't working properly

What makes you say that, because more people believe that we Humans are part of the animal world and not the way you think.

 

[Gharib]

Well let's see, no they aren't. Why? I would guess it's because Human is the "nickname"(for lack of a better term on my part) we gave are species.
We are: Homo sapiens sapiens aka Humans...
Just like... Canis lupus familiaris...or aka Dogs
and one more.. Panthera tigris... aka Tiger
(Hell this makes sense to me wounder if it does to anyone else)

why does the name 'human' and 'animal' exist. what is the difference between a human and an animal which has lead to one species being called human and one being called animal.
comparing a human and an animal is like comparing a man and a dog, so whats the difference, they are the same aren't they?

What makes you say that, because more people believe that we Humans are part of the animal world and not the way you think.

no but because if you add up the percentage it adds up to 108

 

[Azakel]

why does the name 'human' and 'animal' exist. what is the difference between a human and an animal which has lead to one species being called human and one being called animal.
comparing a human and an animal is like comparing a man and a dog, so whats the difference, they are the same aren't they?

Becuase Human is what we call Homo sapiens sapiens, Just like Canis lupus familiaris is what we call dogs. Humans are animals, they way you're thinking it's like asking, what's they differenice between a cat and bird. They're both way different, so why are they both animals then.

 

[McBell]

no but because if you add up the percentage it adds up to 108

That is because it is a multiple option poll.

That means that you are not limited to one answer and YmirGF selected two answers: Yes and Whatever Angelous_Evangellous says.

 

[darkendless]

why does the name 'human' and 'animal' exist. what is the difference between a human and an animal which has lead to one species being called human and one being called animal.
comparing a human and an animal is like comparing a man and a dog, so whats the difference, they are the same aren't they?

Humans born into accepting pre-historic books are often wafted into some sort of elistism where they are convinced they are better than animals because they believe in God. In many ways they're worse, God is an excuse, often to justify killing majestic creatures which deserve to live.
I often wonder how killing animals is ok when killing humans is not. We're all from the same pool of organisms.

 

[S-word]

Humans born into accepting pre-historic books are often wafted into some sort of elistism where they are convinced they are better than animals because they believe in God. In many ways they're worse, God is an excuse, often to justify killing majestic creatures which deserve to live.

I often wonder how killing animals is ok when killing humans is not. We're all from the same pool of organisms.

Yea, Cain was a vegetarian whose offering of friut and vegatables was rejected, even though mankind was given all green vegetation, herbs and fruit to eat, with no mention of meat eating which require the butchering of animals, birds and fish.

But Abel's offering of butchered meat which shows that he was aware of the fact that all of creation feeds upon itself, was accepted over Cains; for this reason his older brother who abided strictly to the commands of God, killed him.

 

[kai]

animal!

 

[lilithu]

why does the name 'human' and 'animal' exist. what is the difference between a human and an animal which has lead to one species being called human and one being called animal.

First of all. "animal" is not a species. It's a kingdom, a category containing many, many species of which humans are but one. Secondly, your question is like asking "Why do both the names triangle and polygon exist?" All triangles are polygons but not all polygons are triangles. Similarly, all humans are animals but not all animals are humans.

comparing a human and an animal is like comparing a man and a dog, so whats the difference, they are the same aren't they?

No, a human is a human and a dog is a dog. But they are both animals.

Do you understand the concept of subsets?

 

[lilithu]

Humans born into accepting pre-historic books are often wafted into some sort of elistism where they are convinced they are better than animals because they believe in God. In many ways they're worse, God is an excuse, often to justify killing majestic creatures which deserve to live.

Just out of curiosity, are roaches majestic too? Or is majesty only reserved for some (non-human) animals?

Islam actually teaches that all animals except humans are naturally Muslims. That is, all animals except humans naturally obey God's will by virtue of being as they are. Only humans have free will and thus the capacity to disobey God. Given that, the idea that humans are "better" than animals is hard to justify, imo.

I often wonder how killing animals is ok when killing humans is not. We're all from the same pool of organisms.

Are plants not from the same pool of organisms?? And bacteria?

You may spend time wondering such things. I doubt the tiger wonders why killing humans is ok when killing tigers is not.

 

[Buttons*]

What Ash said. So she doesn't hit me

LOL *spank* Write whatever you want

 

[lilithu]

What Ash said. So she doesn't hit me

Out of curiosity, what was the rationale for voting "no"?

 

[darkendless]

Just out of curiosity, are roaches majestic too? Or is majesty only reserved for some (non-human) animals?

Islam actually teaches that all animals except humans are naturally Muslims. That is, all animals except humans naturally obey God's will by virtue of being as they are. Only humans have free will and thus the capacity to disobey God. Given that, the idea that humans are "better" than animals is hard to justify, imo.


Are plants not from the same pool of organisms?? And bacteria?

You may spend time wondering such things. I doubt the tiger wonders why killing humans is ok when killing tigers is not.

Everything is in its own right. Some probably appeal more to us because we wish we could display similar traits, like the power of a lion for example.

Do plants feel pain when theyre removed from their habitat to be eaten?

Tigers don't go out of their way to hunt humans the way we hunt them, and for what, they're not good eating.

 

[Buttons*]

Out of curiosity, what was the rationale for voting "no"?

Probably referring to that bit where he agreed with me about humans also having a part of themselves which isn't biological. He could be humoring me, he does that

 

[BucephalusBB]

Yes we are. We eat, sleep, poop and survive. There is nothing that seperates us from other animals.