Are madrassas injecting hatred and breeding terrorists?

[RAYYAN]

Islam has a lot of violence in it. Anyone who denies this is either ignorant or a fool.

Muslims aren't generally violent because they're people and believe in social cohesion and cooperative ideas. They are human beings first. You can't reverse millions of years of evolution with a 1400 warlike faith.

I'm so glad I live in a free society where I can express my views. My religion and people come from a country where they would be killed for saying anything against Islam. Even recently a Christian couple was burned alive in Pakistan for speaking out against a book of myths. All those who defend Islam, think about that for a second. They were literally beaten and burned alive for ALLEGEDLY speaking against a 'holy' book. Christians are routinely killed in that cess pool of a nation. Bahais are killed in Iran. Zoroastrians are killed in Iran. Yezidis are killed in Iraq. Christians are killed in Iraq. Every single Muslim country kills it's minorities.

Are Muslims killed routinely in Christian countries? In fact they are protected by liberals more so than the natives.

Religion of peace, my ***.

What a filthy mouth for someone who can't support his claim. again, show me where the Quran says be violent or chicken up and run away

 

[MD]

What a filthy mouth for someone who can't support his claim. again, show me where the Quran says be violent or chicken up and run away

I showed you 109 in my earlier link. It's not my fault you're too lazy and intellectually deficient to respond.

Go join ISIS, you don't belong in Canada and we don't want you.

 

[RAYYAN]

I showed you 109 in my earlier link. It's not my fault you're too lazy and intellectually deficient to respond.

Go join ISIS, you don't belong in Canada and we don't want you.

You don't want me! and who are you? you are not worth the dirt that I stepped on dude so simply YOU ARE NOBODY
and no, you didn't give me any verse, you gave me a link, I am not lazy, you are just dump to read about the verses, so you just dump a link

 

[Christian20]

Islam has a lot of violence in it. Anyone who denies this is either ignorant or a fool.

Muslims aren't generally violent because they're people and believe in social cohesion and cooperative ideas. They are human beings first. You can't reverse millions of years of evolution with a 1400 warlike faith.

I'm so glad I live in a free society where I can express my views. My religion originally comes from a country where they would be killed for saying anything against Islam. Even recently a Christian couple was burned alive in Pakistan for speaking out against a book of myths. All those who defend Islam, think about that for a second. They were literally beaten and burned alive for ALLEGEDLY speaking against a 'holy' book. Christians are routinely killed in that cess pool of a nation. Bahais are killed in Iran. Zoroastrians are killed in Iran. Yezidis are killed in Iraq. Christians are killed in Iraq. Every single Muslim country kills it's minorities. In fact the fundamentalism is so rampant that the Muslims are killing each other more so than ever before. We are on the cusp of a major Shi'a-Sunni war.

Are Muslims killed routinely in Christian countries? In fact they are protected by liberals more so than the natives.

Religion of peace, my ***.

I agree with you on this, i do respect Muslims because they are not all bad people its only the ones who truly know their religion.
My faith Christianity teaches me to love the enemies because they need it the most, let's try that!

 

[MD]

You don't want me! and who are you? you are not worth the dirt that I stepped on dude so simply YOU ARE NOBODY
and no, you didn't give me any verse, you gave me a link, I am not lazy, you are just dump to read about the verses, so you just dump a link

Okay let's go. I'll put only TWO right now, then I'll put the other 107!!!

Quran (2:191-193) "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
You practice a religion which is all about religious superiority. You believe that infidels are below you. You are against racism, but you are for religious persecution. You will kill homosexuals. You believe women should be submitted.

You are anti science. Anti evolution. You hate polytheists. You think they should go to hell, an eternity for burning because they believe in many gods. What kind of insecure God is your Allah, to punish someone eternally for worshipping other gods? Sounds like a child God, rather than some omnipotent being. No wonder your religion is filled with violence. The white liberals defend you because they're ignorant, but those of us from the region truly know. Even now you try to kill us off, but the truth always remains.

 

[MD]

I agree with you on this, i do respect Muslims because they are not all bad people its only the ones who truly know their religion.
My faith Christianity teaches me to love the enemies because they need it the most, let's try that!

Your faith, Christianity, is being wiped out from the Middle East. Maybe you guys should try and defend yourselves.

 

[MD]

Have a nice day.

Are you gonna defend a religion which practices genocide or are you going to run away? Be a man and stand for something, unless you admit that you were wrong.

 

[Harikrish]

The Islamists have 164 jihad verses to justify their terrorists activities. But what they fail to realize is the basic law of diminishing returns. For every one infidel they kill, they lose twenty times more.
Take the example of Al Qaeda. For killing 3000 Americans in the 9/11 attack. America has sent Iraq and Afghanistan back to the stone age.
The Hezbollah attack on Israel destroyed Lebanon and reduced its cities and building to rubble by Israeli bombing.

The Hamas rocket attacks on Israel has destroyed what took Gaza 20 years to rebuild.

Now the ISIS will draw the wrath of Christian forces that will destroy them after the ISIS have destroyed every mosque and killed as many Muslims are their Jihad justifies. But they will go down and take the Middle East down with them.

Take Pakistan. It is soon becoming a failed state. Its war with India has so consumed the country, nothing else is happening there. They are over run by madarasa and has one of the highest illiteracy rates in the Muslim world.

With the western countries becoming oil producers. The oil rich Arab countries will be sidelined. The table has turned and Muslims are on the wrong side of history.

 

[Christian20]

 

[MD]

The Islamists have 164 jihad verses to justify their terrorists activities. But what they fail to realize is the basic law of diminishing returns. For every one infidel they kill, they lose twenty times more.
Take the example of Al Qaeda. For killing 3000 Americans in the 9/11 attack. America has sent Iraq and Afghanistan back to the stone age.
The Hezbollah attack on Israel destroyed Lebanon and reduced its cities and building to rubble by Israeli bombing.

The Hamas rocket attacks on Israel has destroyed what took Gaza 20 years to rebuild.

Now the ISIS will draw the wrath of Christian forces that will destroy them after the ISIS have destroyed every mosque and killed as many Muslims are their Jihad justifies. But they will go down and take the Middle East down with them.

Take Pakistan. It is soon becoming a failed state. Its war with India has so consumed the country, nothing else is happening there. They are over run by madarasa and has one of the highest illiteracy rates in the Muslim world.

With the western countries becoming oil producers. The oil rich Arab countries will be sidelined. The table has turned and Muslims are on the wrong side of history.

Well said. But Pakistan will destroy India if it collapses. The Pakistanis will create a Hindu Muslim war unlike we have ever seen. All over a bunch of myths.

Also the Islamic birth rate is HUGE, like 4 kids average. The rest of us have 1-2. Their numbers can be replenished indefinitely.

 

[RAYYAN]

Okay let's go. I'll put only TWO right now, then I'll put the other 107!!!

Quran (2:191-193) "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

Good, but why did you start from 191? why didn't you read 190? it is a story that you can't break. the verse before that says
"Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like"
so the verse is actually talking about people who oppress and fight Muslims

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
You practice a religion which is all about religious superiority. You believe that infidels are below you. You are against racism, but you are for religious persecution. You will kill homosexuals. You believe women should be submitted.

Again, read the next verse, don't read just what you wanted to read. this is talking about Muslims fight with Quraish who stole Muslims wealth and kicked them out of their city (Mecca) and finally they came attacking in the battle of Badr. so what do you do with your enemy in battle? kill them right

You are anti science. Anti evolution. You hate polytheists. You think they should go to hell, an eternity for burning because they believe in many gods. What kind of insecure God is your Allah, to punish someone eternally for worshipping other gods? Sounds like a child God, rather than some omnipotent being. No wonder your religion is filled with violence. The white liberals defend you because they're ignorant, but those of us from the region truly know. Even now you try to kill us off, but the truth always remains.

I like science, I agree with 99% of evolution. I don't hate people regardless of what their belief is, I don't believe hell fire is for eternity, I don't try to kill you....etc.

Stop being a baby, this is an adult forum man up and stop pretending that you know me and what is my mentality in short MAN UP BABY

 

[MD]

Good, but why did you start from 191? why didn't you read 190? it is a story that you can't break. the verse before that says
"Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like"
so the verse is actually talking about people who oppress and fight Muslims


Again, read the next verse, don't read just what you wanted to read. this is talking about Muslims fight with Quraish who stole Muslims wealth and kicked them out of their city (Mecca) and finally they came attacking in the battle of Badr. so what do you do with your enemy in battle? kill them right


I like science, I agree with 99% of evolution. I don't hate people regardless of what their belief is, I don't believe hell fire is for eternity, I don't try to kill you....etc.

Stop being a baby, this is an adult forum man up and stop pretending that you know me and what is my mentality in short MAN UP BABY

Whatever the 'reasons' were it still prescribes killing. Killing involves suffering and rape and innocents die. No holy man kills. If God is good, then how can God sanction killing? That makes God partly evil. Allah is partly evil then. Your religion is filled with so many inconsistencies. If God wanted Islam to succeed, he would have created peaceful ways to spread it. Why does it escape your mind that rationally it is just a book of war and killing?????

What makes you think all I do is whine? I am involved in a lot more than just whining. As a Muslim you hate me with all your heart for calling your prophet a war mongering pedophile. But you cannot kill me because it's the internet. I speak the truth here and in public as well because the world needs to know and grow from this religion of yours which just kills and kills and kills. As long as Islam exists humanity will never grow.

If you don't believe hellfire is for eternity then you aren't a true muslim. And if you believe that evolution is true then you don't believe in Adam and Eve either. Don't try to fool me. You can try to kill us all off, but some of us who survive will be 100x stronger than you will. And we will get justice.

 

[RAYYAN]

Whatever the 'reasons' were it still prescribes killing. Killing involves suffering and rape and innocents die. No holy man kills. If God is good, then how can God sanction killing? That makes God partly evil. Allah is partly evil then. Your religion is filled with so many inconsistencies. If God wanted Islam to succeed, he would have created peaceful ways to spread it. Why does it escape your mind that rationally it is just a book of war and killing?????

What makes you think all I do is whine? I am involved in a lot more than just whining. As a Muslim you hate me with all your heart for calling your prophet a war mongering pedophile. But you cannot kill me because it's the internet. I speak the truth here and in public as well because the world needs to know and grow from this religion of yours which just kills and kills and kills. As long as Islam exists humanity will never grow.

If you don't believe hellfire is for eternity then you aren't a true muslim. And if you believe that evolution is true then you don't believe in Adam and Eve either. Don't try to fool me.

first of all, I don't hate you and don't hate anyone, The verses you posted were not actually fighting, it is an order for Muslims to defend themselves, and that is the reaction of every person regardless of their religion. take it or leave it that is a perfect logic

by looking at your posts, seems like I am a more peaceful person than you, you posts are filled with hate and childish logic, I live with people (non Muslims) and I am respected and I respect people. How old are you anyways are you 8!

I said I believe in 99% of evolution and don't believe in 100% hell fire is not permanent according to some scholars, but you are ignorant about this opinion right?

 

[MD]

first of all, I don't hate you and don't hate anyone, The verses you posted were not actually fighting, it is an order for Muslims to defend themselves, and that is the reaction of every person regardless of their religion. take it or leave it that is a perfect logic

by looking at your posts, seems like I am a more peaceful person than you, you posts are filled with hate and childish logic, I live with people (non Muslims) and I am respected and I respect people. How old are you anyways are you 8!

I said I believe in 99% of evolution and don't believe in 100% hell fire is not permanent according to some scholars, but you are ignorant about this opinion right?

Again self defense as in waging wars isn't holy because it involves violence, which involves suffering and evil. As such Allah is partly evil. Are you really slow or something? How do you not understand this?

You come off as peaceful because your people aren't being killed off like mine were. Thousands of Yezidis have been killed and enslaved, all because their faith is an offshoot of mine. And for all I know you're just faking and lying.

And you may put on a nice face here, but anyone who knows a true Muslim will know that all it would take is one fatwa. To a muslim, all non muslims are KUFFAR and subhuman. It's the history of Islam.

 

[Christian20]

Your faith, Christianity, is being wiped out from the Middle East. Maybe you guys should try and defend yourselves.

I know i'm originally from Syria and we Christians are being killed in very unhuman ways.

But the bible teaches us better to be killed then kill.
Because we don't want blood on our hands by killing another lost brother/sister.
We can only pray and spread peace and positivity. If we do the same as they do, we would be just as guilty and going against what Jesus CHrist said.

 

[MD]

I know i'm originally from Syria amd we Christians are being killed in very unhuman ways.

But the bible teaches us better to be killed then kill.
Because we don't blood on our hand by killing another lost brother/sister.
We can only pray and spreak peace and positivity. If we do the same as they do we would be just as guilt and going agains what Jesus CHrist said.

Peace will never work with these people. Trust me my family comes from Iran with a history of genocide and blood. My religion is related to the Yezidis, who are also being killed off. The only language they will understand is the language of force. Either the Christian world rallies behind the genocide of the Middle Eastern Christian groups, or face annihilation by Islam.

 

[RAYYAN]

Again self defense as in waging wars isn't holy because it involves violence, which involves suffering and evil. As such Allah is partly evil. Are you really slow or something? How do you not understand this?

Why do you do if someone is trying to kill you?
Why do you do if someone is trying to destroy your house?

You come off as peaceful because your people aren't being killed off like mine were. Thousands of Yezidis have been killed and enslaved, all because their faith is an offshoot of mine. And for all I know you're just faking and lying.

And you may put on a nice face here, but anyone who knows a true Muslim will know that all it would take is one fatwa. To a muslim, all non muslims are KUFFAR and subhuman. It's the history of Islam.

If you are talking about ISIS, Majority od Muslims are against them, and ISIS is the enemy of Islam.
and why will I put a nice face here? didn't I tell you that you are a "no body to me"!

 

[Christian20]

Peace will never work with these people. Trust me my family comes from Iran with a history of genocide and blood. My religion is related to the Yezidis, who are also being killed off. The only language they will understand is the language of force. Either the Christian world rallies behind the genocide of the Middle Eastern Christian groups, or face annihilation by Islam.

I have friends who are Yezidis and also tell me horrific stories about whats happening with their people.
I understand your anger towards them trust me i'm very angry too i mean i have family members who have been killed by them because they did not want to convert.
But i will always stay behind Jesus CHrist his word.
And i know that we can't stop them al with peace but we can try.
May god save us soon.

 

[MD]

Why do you do if someone is trying to kill you?
Why do you do if someone is trying to destroy your house?

Yea I'm a human. I'm not a so called messenger of God. Your messenger waged wars of conquest. So much for that.

If you are talking about ISIS, Majority od Muslims are against them, and ISIS is the enemy of Islam.
and why will I put a nice face here? didn't I tell you that you are a "no body to me"!

What about the Iranian govt and its oppression of minorities?
What about Hezbollah?
What about the inability to practice your faith in Saudi Arabia?
What about the persecution of coptic Christians in Egypt?
What about the persecution of Christians and other minorities in Pakistan?
What about the bombing of sufi shrines in Pakistan?
What about the Taliban?
What about Al Nusra?
What about the rest of Al Qaeda?
What about the hundreds of quotes in the Quran which condemn the kuffar?
What about the deaths of all minorities in the Muslim world?
What about the South Sudan genocides?
What about Hamas?
What about all the jihadist groups in Pakistan against India?

Gimme a break. Your apologetics are getting so tiresome that only liberal fools would believe you. In a way ISIS and the whole Sunni Shia war is because your religion is finally eating itself alive, but killing everyone else with it. I suppose that is the price to pay, to see the Ummah implode.

 

[Christian20]

Peace will never work with these people. Trust me my family comes from Iran with a history of genocide and blood. My religion is related to the Yezidis, who are also being killed off. The only language they will understand is the language of force. Either the Christian world rallies behind the genocide of the Middle Eastern Christian groups, or face annihilation by Islam.

And just some advice. I see you are arguing with a Muslim. But it has no point. They will always defend their religion at the end of the day. You can hardly change their minds because they zre not open and willing to look further beyond their own.