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Are People Born Good, Evil, or Indifferent?

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spencer751

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We are born in complete ignorance. When we sin and do evil things we d it out of ignorance because we don't understand the consequences of our actions.
 
Primordial Annihilator

Primordial Annihilator

Well-Known Member
spencer751 said:
We are born in complete ignorance. When we sin and do evil things we d it out of ignorance because we don't understand the consequences of our actions.
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I am fully aware of the probable consequences of my actions/inactions both direct and indirect.

I am also aware of the fact that the definition of evil is utterly subjective, what you might consider wholesome and good I might regard as an abomination....and visa versa of course.
 
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Ben Masada

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spencer751 said:
We are born in complete ignorance. When we sin and do evil things we d it out of ignorance because we don't understand the consequences of our actions.
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People are born good. As indifference sets in as a result of boredom, he misuses his free will to do evil, a habit is made of misbehaving, and he becomes an evil person.(Eccl. 7:29)
 
lilmama1991

lilmama1991

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I believed god intended for us to be born with a positive attitude because he's a god with a wonderful heart but since satan is on this earth we'll only be good or have good thoughts when jehovah gets in our head if not we'll have negative thoughts or be bad because of satan
 
Primordial Annihilator

Primordial Annihilator

Well-Known Member
lilmama1991 said:
I believed god intended for us to be born with a positive attitude because he's a god with a wonderful heart but since satan is on this earth we'll only be good or have good thoughts when jehovah gets in our head if not we'll have negative thoughts or be bad because of satan
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Ever met Satan?

Or God?
 
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mohammed_beiruti

Active Member
Proud 2B Gay said:
The reason I ask this is because I see some people I've known my entire life who were always so good and kind, like it came to them by nature. Then I've known some who acted like they were harsh and hateful by nature. I've been told myself by some of my friends that I'm an unusual person because I am naturally soft-hearted, naturally kind, naturally empathetic, without having to really try. This is people who have known me my entire life. Then they tell me not everyone is naturally loving and compassionate like me. Is that really so? I wonder if everyone is born good? I know everyone can't be born evil, because like I said, people who have known me my entire life say I was born naturally good and affectionate, because that's been my personality and behaviour all my life.
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If you ask me to have sex with a gay , I will refuse this because my nature refuses this thing.

but if i think about it too much and i live with this Idea, and the I dea of doing homosexuality surrounded my thoughts , i will start to consider it neutral ,(not bad not good) , then I woull think to try it, then i would be addicted to it, then I will tell the people "ahh I naturally born as agay!".
:p
 
Primordial Annihilator

Primordial Annihilator

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mohammed_beiruti said:
If you ask me to have sex with a gay , I will refuse this because my nature refuses this thing.

but if i think about it too much and i live with this Idea, and the I dea of doing homosexuality surrounded my thoughts , i will start to consider it neutral ,(not bad not good) , then I woull think to try it, then i would be addicted to it, then I will tell the people "ahh I naturally born as agay!".
:p
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So you think if people around you are gay then you will become gay...

Amusing...

I have a fact for you....everyone is a little bit gay....even you.
 
Primordial Annihilator

Primordial Annihilator

Well-Known Member
Ben Masada said:
People are born good. As indifference sets in as a result of boredom, he misuses his free will to do evil, a habit is made of misbehaving, and he becomes an evil person.(Eccl. 7:29)
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I enjoy misbehaving...I like to disregard laws...I love to wreck social conventions.

I will walk on the grass and spit on the walls....I will steal from shops and walk away laughing at how easy it is.

Because I can...so I shall...and I accept the consequences....but I will never recognise any authority.

These laws and codes of convention are not real...they have no power of you unless you let them.

There is no such thing as good and evil...they are inventions...fantasises dreamed up by moralists and controllers since the dawn of time.
 
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mohammed_beiruti

Active Member
Primordial Annihilator said:
So you think if people around you are gay then you will become gay...

Amusing...

I have a fact for you....everyone is a little bit gay....even you.
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no it's like a fight between two forces

natural one : tell you that this deed is ugly. don't do it!

another : tells you it's not that ugly to do it, sometimes someone may do it , but you have to avoid doing it as much as you can, anyway if you can't avoid it , do it once then dont do it again.

yes it is ok to do it once then repent and ask forgiveness from god........
the other day you may ask your self what is the difference between doing it once or twice...., idon't think it's a big deal how many time i will do it.

finally you will find it as drinking a glass of water. easy with no feal of regret.
 
Primordial Annihilator

Primordial Annihilator

Well-Known Member
mohammed_beiruti said:
no it's like a fight between two forces

natural one : tell you that this deed is ugly. don't do it!

another : tells you it's not that ugly to do it, sometimes someone may do it , but you have to avoid doing it as much as you can, anyway if you can't avoid it , do it once then dont do it again.

yes it is ok to do it once then repent and ask forgiveness from god........
the other day you may ask your self what is the difference between doing it once or twice...., idon't think it's a big deal how many time i will do it.

finally yo will find it as drinking a glass of water. easy with no feal of regret.
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You talking from personal experience?
Because what you have just said is unlike any thought I have ever had.

In my head it goes like this...

I want to do something.
Well do it then.
I shall.

No regrets...ever.

There is only one force in my head... ;)
 
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mohammed_beiruti

Active Member
Primordial Annihilator said:
You talking from personal experience?
Because what you have just said is unlike any thought I have ever had.

In my head it goes like this...

I want to do something.
Well do it then.
I shall.

No regrets...ever.

There is only one force in my head... ;)
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you don't regert any deed( just one force). even anger? or whatever? regardless!
 
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