Are prophets sinless, infallible people?

[Nadia Faiazova]

All people are imperfect and sinful, no matter is their privilege.

 

[ZooGirl02]

I don't believe that prophets, saints, popes, etc are sinless. Neither are prophets alone. However, I do believe that they have far less sin than the average ordinary person. As for Jesus Christ Who is The Prophet, The Main Prophet, The Final Prophet, He is indeed sinless in my beliefs.

 

[Ingledsva]

I don't believe that prophets, saints, popes, etc are sinless. Neither are prophets alone. However, I do believe that they have far less sin than the average ordinary person. As for Jesus Christ Who is The Prophet, The Main Prophet, The Final Prophet, He is indeed sinless in my beliefs.

He got angry and chased people from the Temple grounds - rather then using it as a teaching opportunity.


John 2:15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;


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[Desert Snake]

He got angry and chased people from the Temple grounds - rather then using it as a teaching opportunity.


John 2:15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;


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I have my doubts about that actually happening. Seems parable like.

 

[Ingledsva]

I have my doubts about that actually happening. Seems parable like.

Actually it says it happened twice.

The first a couple of days after the wedding at Cana, and the second at the end of his life after heading for Jerusalem.


His first "recorded" Temple cleansing, after the wedding at Cana.


Joh 2:11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.
Joh 2:12 After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they continued there not many days.
Joh 2:13 And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem,
Joh 2:14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:
Joh 2:15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
Joh 2:16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.


His Second "recorded" Temple cleansing at the end of his life.


Mat 20:18 Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death,


Mat 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
Mat 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.



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[Desert Snake]

Actually it says it happened twice.

The first a couple of days after the wedding at Cana, and the second at the end of his life after heading for Jerusalem.


His first "recorded" Temple cleansing, after the wedding at Cana.


Joh 2:11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.
Joh 2:12 After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they continued there not many days.
Joh 2:13 And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem,
Joh 2:14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:
Joh 2:15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
Joh 2:16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.


His Second "recorded" Temple cleansing at the end of his life.


Mat 20:18 Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death,


Mat 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
Mat 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.



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And you view this as wrong action? A pious Jew in this instance Yoheshuah, referred to as Rabbi and with many devoted followers, has the authority to 'correct', to rebuke.

 

[Ingledsva]

And you view this as wrong action? A pious Jew in this instance Yoheshuah, referred to as Rabbi and with many devoted followers, has the authority to 'correct', to rebuke.

Not the point. We are being told that Jesus was a loving teacher - whom didn't sin.


That is obviously not the case when you carefully read the Bible.


A "teacher" would have used this as a teaching opportunity, but he chose human anger - and chased people with a whip, - twice.


We are told in other verses that he riled up people and had to escape.


They packed close combat swords, and he apparently had guerrilla fighters among his chosen.


He purposely riled up the Romans when he entered Jerusalem on A***s.




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[Desert Snake]

Not the point. We are being told that Jesus was a loving teacher - whom didn't sin.


That is obviously not the case when you carefully read the Bible.


A "teacher" would have used this as a teaching opportunity, but he chose human anger - and chased people with a whip, - twice.


We are told in other verses that he riled up people and had to escape.


They packed close combat swords, and he apparently had guerrilla fighters among his chosen.


He purposely riled up the Romans when he entered Jerusalem on A***s.




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There isn't 'sin' in appropriate rebuke.

 

[Ingledsva]

There isn't 'sin' in appropriate rebuke.

It is not appropriate.


It does not teach, - it riles people up, - and gets him killed!



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