PAUL MARKHAM
Well-Known Member
One only has to look to the Plan to see how unworkable it is.How many times have we been told that Baha'u'llah is the new messenger and the promised return of all the messengers ever promised in every major religion. Meaning, he is the fulfillment of all those religions. A "true" believer in any of those religions should, supposedly, recognize this and follow this new teaching from God that replaces all those old teachings. So should all people in all religions learn to get along? Yes. But is it by all of them recognizing and accepted Baha'u'llah? I think that is exactly what Baha'u'llah is saying. Unless Baha'is can show me where he says that it is okay for spiritual/religious people to keep believing in their old religion and to keep following their old prophet and not follow him.
Problem with that is that not one religion, in the way it is believed and practiced today, agrees totally with any of the other ones. Even sects within one religion don't agree with each other. And why do Baha'is say that is so? It is because of manmade traditions and manmade interpretations of the religion and its scriptures. Next question... are the scriptures from God or from man? I'm thinking man invented them and wrote them. Made laws and rules and told the people, "This is what the Gods have decreed." Things like chop up and animal and burn him up. If you're a woman and on your period you must say special prayers. If a man or woman is caught in adultery, then God wants them stoned to death.
Sounds to me more like manmade laws then God. I wonder what the law is in Islam or the Baha'i Faith? If not execution by rocks hitting one's head, then why is God easing up on his penalties for breaking his laws? Or is it that people won't put up with other people killing other people in the name of an unknowable invisible law-maker God? But even with the death penalty, those laws didn't work to stop the behavior. So how is a more lenient penalty going to work? And, how many people, right now, within any of the religions, follows all of the rules? And if a religious community tries to to impose its laws on its people, how well has that worked? Ah, but not to worry, someday... a new race of men will obey all the rules willingly and with a smile.
But, if all the people don't all become a "new" race of men, then what about the ones that don't? Kill 'em? Put them in a Baha'i prison? Let them run free within a "holy" and spiritual society? And Baha'is also say there will be a secular government and Baha'i laws only apply to Baha'is? So I'd imagine the new race of men will be Baha'is. So what about the people in government? If not Baha'is, they will still be the old, corrupt, lying, cheating, stealing race of men?
But, why live in the future. Let's live for now. What are Baha'is doing now? Hmmm? It seems like they're telling us about the future and the past... that Baha'u'llah came went and that in the future we will have a peaceful harmonious world.
Amanaki won't drop Islam, Hockey won't drop being a witness and so on. SothePlan fails at the first hurdle, no One religion, god, unity of mankind, language, and politics.
■The oneness of God
■The essential unity of religion
■The unity of mankind
■Harmony of religion and science
■Independent investigation of truth
■The need for universal compulsory education
■The need for a universal auxiliary language
■Obedience to government and non-involvement in partisan politics
I keep asking what any of this means, they keep ignoring or offer nothing excuses.