So in other words, it means exactly what I said: they want him to be President because he's the one with an "R" behind his name, but they know he isn't moral, intelligent or otherwise fit for the office.
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Are Republicans More Often Sheeple Compared to Democrats?
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Your opinion is not concluded from any evidence, is it?
Deathbydefault
Apistevist Asexual Atheist
Not unless personal observation counts.
That is a very good skill to cultivate. On the other hand I have worked on developing my skill in asking those kind of questions. In fact, I would go so far as to say that I am a master baiter.
I hope that you wash that hand!
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
I fixed it for you.
Whatever turns you on.I fixed it for you.
But please, do not let me become part of your dreams.
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
It occurs to me that Republicans tend to seek an exterior morality and Democrats seek a more inner one. Both have their fair share of hypocrites and miscreants, but they tend to deviate in different ways.
Republicans believe in repentance: a second chance. Unless of course you are a Democrat, then you are simply a baby killer and hell spawn. In that vein, I've heard a number of them suggest that Trump found Jesus last year. I've poked and Googled, and though I've found where he's said that he's never asked God for forgiveness. I haven't found a single instance of his conversion. So, I don't get why they've accepted him as one of the born agains. It just doesn't make sense.
Republicans believe in repentance: a second chance. Unless of course you are a Democrat, then you are simply a baby killer and hell spawn. In that vein, I've heard a number of them suggest that Trump found Jesus last year. I've poked and Googled, and though I've found where he's said that he's never asked God for forgiveness. I haven't found a single instance of his conversion. So, I don't get why they've accepted him as one of the born agains. It just doesn't make sense.
I prefer that my Trump be a pretend Xian.
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
Pretend? I think he's fairly representative of many Christians today: not a thing like Jesus.
Still, less risk of theocratic tendencies.
I don't think Repubs are more likely to be sheeple.. Republicans are more conservative and as such are more likely to want to impose their beliefs on others.
Augustus
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More likely to demonstrate that humans are pretty adept at making excuses for their own "group" to avoid cognitive dissonance.
(and that humans are also pretty adept at finding "evidence" that suggests their group is smarter/more ethical/more honest/etc. than rival groups)
Bob Altemeyer, the research psychologist who spent his career studying people who prefer to follow authoritarian leaders like Trump, has noted that a few decades ago these authoritarian followers were more or less evenly distributed between the Republican and Democratic Parties. However, surveys now indicate that they are leaving the Democratic Party and are concentrating in the Republican Party, perhaps in response to the polarizing effect of right wing media like Fox News.
Authoritarian followers have a number of interesting traits including a marked tendency to believe moral whatever their leaders tell them is moral, and to show little or no value for the truth when the truth comes into conflict with what their leaders tell them is true. They are, perhaps, the closest humans ever come to being habitually sheeplike in terms of following someone.
However, they tend to be highly aggressive towards people they perceive as "other", especially when they feel they have the upper hand or outnumber the "other".
Authoritarian followers have a number of interesting traits including a marked tendency to believe moral whatever their leaders tell them is moral, and to show little or no value for the truth when the truth comes into conflict with what their leaders tell them is true. They are, perhaps, the closest humans ever come to being habitually sheeplike in terms of following someone.
However, they tend to be highly aggressive towards people they perceive as "other", especially when they feel they have the upper hand or outnumber the "other".
Lighthouse
Well-Known Member
What Chaffetz just said. They obviously think he's moral, intelligent, and fit over Hillary. I don't necessarily think that is saying much.
D'oh! Sunstone stole my post!
Right wing 'conservatives' tend to be more 'tribal' -- more regimented, novelty averse, uncritical of and submissive to, perceived authority.
The typical attitudinal cluster (Wiki. Right Wing Authoritarianism):
Right wing 'conservatives' tend to be more 'tribal' -- more regimented, novelty averse, uncritical of and submissive to, perceived authority.
The typical attitudinal cluster (Wiki. Right Wing Authoritarianism):
- Authoritarian submission — a high degree of submissiveness to the authorities who are perceived to be established and legitimate in the society in which one lives.
- Authoritarian aggression — a general aggressiveness directed against deviants, outgroups, and other people that are perceived to be targets according to established authorities.
- Conventionalism — a high degree of adherence to the traditions and social norms that are perceived to be endorsed by society and its established authorities, and a belief that others in one's society should also be required to adhere to these norms.
Nah....all one needs to do is tell them there's a special place in Hell for
them if they don't vote for the woman. It's entertaining to watch both
Dems & Pubs each proclaim their superiority of independent thought.
This year, the Pubs win.;
Why?
Because Dems discarded Bernie for Hilda...more of the the same old same old.
But Donald is a very different breed from the usual.
Btw, I never said that independent thought is necessarily good.
This time, it's.....disturbing.
Polls by who? The mainstream that is full time in the can for SHillary? Anyway, my stats are from my own websites, some of which cover politics, and most of my comments are on my own audiences.
Trump has high appeal with legal immigrants who are tired of being blamed for everything illegals do, and there are a large percentage of African-American voters who are voting Trump as well. (Mostly middle-class, but some lower class who are tired of the same old lies.) Trump also does well with small business owners, and the self-employed. Trump also is doing well with women and LGBT because of 2A support.Trump will be doing a lot better now that the new Obamacare numbers are out, lol. 20-50% increases depending on where you live.
Trump voters are mostly right-leaning centrist populists and Libertarians. That hardly supports any of your notions, these are the people that would take up arms to reclaim the nation from a despot while the rest sat on their duff.
Honestly, I don't think Trump is bad. If he does exactly what he says he will, the net will be extremely positive. Could a less aggro guy be the man? I don't know, but I think that if any of the other candidates won the nomination it would have been less useful -- they were RINOS and status quo guys, mostly. Ben Carson would have been a nice pick and he's extremely intelligent. Hopefully he finds a place under Trump's wing.
I concur with the Hildabeast comment, I think they have better women and better men in that party that they could have put forward. My guess is she just strong-armed her way into the seat, and the rest of the party didn't even really have a choice.