Are Rosaries another lie

[Saint Frankenstein]

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Thanks. Now I have to have it as the skulls are right up my alley. The Buddhist mala beads I have has bone beads carved in the shape of skulls. I have some other skull stuff, too.

 

[Viker]

It is of no relevance to me whether you are concerned or not.

Cool. So, how you doin?

 

[Viker]

Anti-christian? I'm struggling to see how...
Jesus’ willing sacrifice provides a “release by ransom” from sin which brings redemption and a chance of salvation. If, as some pagans believe there is no such thing a 'sin' 'redemption' or 'salvation' then Jesus' sacrifice was pointless and they are calling the God of the scriptures a liar. I'd call that anti-Christian.

I require enlightenment and liberation. I'm not worried about some immortal soul doom prophecy stuff.

 

[SigurdReginson]

Anti-christian? I'm struggling to see how...
Jesus’ willing sacrifice provides a “release by ransom” from sin which brings redemption and a chance of salvation. If, as some pagans believe there is no such thing a 'sin' 'redemption' or 'salvation' then Jesus' sacrifice was pointless and they are calling the God of the scriptures a liar. I'd call that anti-Christian.

That's quite an assumption to draw... Did you think for a moment that some may not see it as a lie, but as a different path?

In paganism, there are many paths... Pagans generally don't view other paths from them as wrong, or as a lie. What works for others may not work for them, and vice versa. It doesn't make others wrong, just different. They aren't in opposition with anyone.

It seems to me that you come from the mindset that there is only one truth. People outside of your path (especially in Paganism) don't often times see the world in such a black and white way... It might be good to try to understand their perspectives before drawing such conclusions, because those are not small conclusions to draw about people and the way they think.

 

[Rival]

What happened to the OP, lol?

 

[Viker]

What happened to the OP, lol?

Slipped on some red herrings I suppose?

 

[Sandra Jayne]

That's quite an assumption to draw... Did you think for a moment that some may not see it as a lie, but as a different path?

In paganism, there are many paths... Pagans generally don't view other paths from them as wrong, or as a lie. What works for others may not work for them, and vice versa. It doesn't make others wrong, just different. They aren't in opposition with anyone.

It seems to me that you come from the mindset that there is only one truth. People outside of your path (especially in Paganism) don't often times see the world in such a black and white way... It might be good to try to understand their perspectives before drawing such conclusions, because those are not small conclusions to draw about people and the way they think.

It really is not an assumption I am saying it exactly like it is, there can only be one truth despite what people appear to 'choose' what to believe.

Either the pagans are correct or the God of the scriptures is correct, they can not both be correct that is a contradiction.

You should never assume and make judgements about people, I am 68yrs, was a hippie and have been around, Pagans, Buddhists and goodness know how many other belief systems. Was a nurse for over 30yrs so met people from all walks of life and currently doing a philosophy degree. It is not my mindset it is logic and being unwilling to delude myself all paths lead to God because they can't.

 

[Rival]

It really is not an assumption I am saying it exactly like it is, there can only be one truth despite what people appear to 'choose' what to believe.

Either the pagans are correct or the God of the scriptures is correct, they can not both be correct that is a contradiction.

You should never assume and make judgements about people, I am 68yrs, was a hippie and have been around, Pagans, Buddhists and goodness know how many other belief systems. Was a nurse for over 30yrs so met people from all walks of life and currently doing a philosophy degree. It is not my mindset it is logic and being unwilling to delude myself all paths lead to God because they can't.

What if the Jews are right?

What if the Muslims are?

Or the Baha'is?

They all claim to be.

 

[SigurdReginson]

It really is not an assumption I am saying it exactly like it is, there can only be one truth despite what people appear to 'choose' what to believe.

Either the pagans are correct or the God of the scriptures is correct, they can not both be correct that is a contradiction.

You should never assume and make judgements about people, I am 68yrs, was a hippie and have been around, Pagans, Buddhists and goodness know how many other belief systems. Was a nurse for over 30yrs so met people from all walks of life and currently doing a philosophy degree. It is not my mindset it is logic and being unwilling to delude myself all paths lead to God because they can't.

I mean, I don't know what else to say...

I don't think you're a bad person, and I don't think you don't know your own life, but what I am saying is that it seems like you have a tendency to speak on behalf of others who don't follow your particular path, and who's path you have never tread. Seems like a lapse in logic to me, and a misrepresentation...

I'm just telling you this as someone from the outside, just like I'd tell you that you got spinach in your teeth. You can take my observations and disregard them if you like, though.

 

[YoursTrue]

Pagans also pray so I guess Christians need to stop praying.

Talk about lop-sided reasoning. Wow.

 

[YoursTrue]

What if the Jews are right?

What if the Muslims are?

Or the Baha'is?

They all claim to be.

You gotta figure it out, if you can...to an extent. Because -- oh well, you gotta figure it out.

 

[YoursTrue]

What if the Jews are right?

What if the Muslims are?

Or the Baha'is?

They all claim to be.

Here's another question -- what if you're wrong?

 

[Rival]

Talk about lop-sided reasoning. Wow.

It's the exact reasoning demonstrated in the OP. I was being sarcastic.

 

[Viker]

Here's another question -- what if you're wrong?

This is why I remove myself from the dichotomy of right/wrong paths.

Do you feel satisfied and content? Are you achieving fulfillment? These are important questions rather than allegedly being right or wrong.

 

[Viker]

My old Methodist prayer beads. I briefly was Methodist as a kid. I made this in a crafts class and kept around for the memories.

 

[SigurdReginson]

Talk about lop-sided reasoning. Wow.

Agreed! So then why does it matter if Christians utilize prayer beads if non Christians do too?

 

[YoursTrue]

Agreed! So then why does it matter if Christians utilize prayer beads if non Christians do too?

That's what I'm asking. And who says, I mean knows, if who they're praying to is listening?

 

[YoursTrue]

It's the exact reasoning demonstrated in the OP. I was being sarcastic.

Yes but what if no one is listening. What if someone is listening but is not the one they think they're praying to? what if this one has power but is misleading?

 

[YoursTrue]

That's quite an assumption to draw... Did you think for a moment that some may not see it as a lie, but as a different path?

In paganism, there are many paths... Pagans generally don't view other paths from them as wrong, or as a lie. What works for others may not work for them, and vice versa. It doesn't make others wrong, just different. They aren't in opposition with anyone.

It seems to me that you come from the mindset that there is only one truth. People outside of your path (especially in Paganism) don't often times see the world in such a black and white way... It might be good to try to understand their perspectives before drawing such conclusions, because those are not small conclusions to draw about people and the way they think.

It's kinda hard to have two tenets that clash with each other and then say both may be true.

 

[Rival]

Yes but what if no one is listening. What if someone is listening but is not the one they think they're praying to? what if this one has power but is misleading?

If the same one is listening regardless of who is being prayed to, then why does it matter who?