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Are there any Flat Earth believers here?

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leroy

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But throughout the whole day, and throughout all of the suns positions in the sky, the sun reflection will always reach your feet, regardless of whether or not it’s dusk or dawn.

For the flat earth sun model:

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I’m honestly still investigating to come to a definite conclusion of whether or not I think the earth is flat or round. I weigh the evidence from both sides but as of lately, everything that NASA/the government has been saying/posting for all of this time seems extremely sketchy to me.
You don't have to trust the goverment.

Assuming that you life in USA....

Just contact a friend on Argentina, and a friend from Australia and ask them to take a picture of the night sky.

1If the earth is round and the stars are distant objects: you should see completely different stars than those seen by your friends.......each of your friends should see Moreless the same stars

2 if the Earth is flat and stars are distant objects
Everybody should see the same stars

3 if the Earth is flat and stars are not distant objects
You and your friend from Argentina should see the same stars , your friend from Australia different stars.

* If you don't have friends in those countries you can higher them as freelances and pay 15 USD for the pictures
 

Skwim

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Seeing the same face of the moon, at the same time, from the opposite side of the earth?

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Err . . . The Moon ONLY presents one side. That's why it wasn't until 1959 when the Russian space craft Luna went around the moon that the far side was first seen.

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Tazarah

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Err . . . The Moon ONLY presents one side. That's why it wasn't until 1959 when the Russian space craft Luna went around the moon that the far side was first seen.

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Let’s say that the moon is a quarter moon. How would it be possible for people in the usa and australia to be looking at the same exact quarter moon at the same exact time?
 

Subduction Zone

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Let’s say that the moon is a quarter moon. How would it be possible for people in the usa and australia to be looking at the same exact quartermoon at the same exact time?
Why is that a problem? If you get a globe and a ball that represents the Moon your error should be obvious to you.
 

Tazarah

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Why is that a problem? If you get a globe and a ball that represents the Moon your error should be obvious to you.

People in the usa are located in a completely different area than the people in australia. The moon should not appear to the people in the usa as it does to the people in australia because the reflection of the sun’s light on the moon cannot create the same visual effect that it does for people in the usa as it does for the people in australia, at the same exact time.
 

Skwim

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Let’s say that the moon is a quarter moon. How would it be possible for people in the usa and australia to be looking at the same exact quarter moon at the same exact time?
Is that what's shown in the two photos? Certainly doesn't look like it to me. In which case I don't care about your quarter moon. Hell, I don't care about your photos anyway, particularly after you posted that absurd picture of all the water on earth pooling in the southern hemisphere. What a god-awful silly claim.

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Tazarah

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Is that what's shown in the two photos? Certainly doesn't look like it to me. In which case I don't care about your quarter moon. Hell, I don't care about your photos anyway with, particularly after you posted that absurd picture of all the water on earth pooling in the southern hemisphere. What a god-awful silly claim.

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How does this one make you feel?

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leroy

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That is not quite what the article says. There are fragments of text from that time. Far more than here is for Jesus.

We have writings from Paul that could be traced back to within a few years (or months) after the crusifixtion (which is better than

Then we have 4 biographies (gospels) and acts written within 1 generation after the event. Witnesses where still alive.

we have extra biblical sources within 100-150 years like tacitus Josephus, Clement etc.

And as a bonus we have houndrets of other sources written within 200-400 years after his death,

This is extraordinary evidence, no other Palestinian jew from ancient history has as much evidence for it's existance as Jesus did.

Take Caephas for example, he was the suprime priest during that time, he was the most important and powerfull Jew, and we just have a few sentences about him in the Bible and a few sentences in Josephus. .....and nobody is skeptical of his existance and nobody argues that we would expect to to have more evidence about him.

How many sources indicate that Jesus was a mythical non historical creature ? Zero.
 

Skwim

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People in the usa are located in a completely different area than the people in australia. The moon should not appear to the people in the usa as it does to the people in australia because the reflection of the sun’s light on the moon cannot create the same visual effect that it does for people in the usa as it does for the people in australia, at the same exact time.
Hey, prove both photos weren't taken from your back yard. :D Until you can do that why should anyone care?

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leroy

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I gave you a chance to figure it out and mentioned your error to @Bob the Unbeliever . You used the same standards for a king that you used for a supposedly magic man.

We are discussing the historical existance of Jesus, not whether if he used magic or not

Not to mention that Alexander was also described by ancient historiens as someone with magical powers
 

Tazarah

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It doesn't make me feel anything; however, it does show you know nothing about photography or the focal length of lenses.

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The moon is only 27% the size of the earth. Why does the moon look bigger from the earth than the earth does from the moon?

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Subduction Zone

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We have writings from Paul that could be traced back to within a few years (or months) after the crusifixtion (which is better than

Then we have 4 biographies (gospels) and acts written within 1 generation after the event. Witnesses where still alive.

we have extra biblical sources within 100-150 years like tacitus Josephus, Clement etc.

And as a bonus we have houndrets of other sources written within 200-400 years after his death,

This is extraordinary evidence, no other Palestinian jew from ancient history has as much evidence for it's existance as Jesus did.

Take Caephas for example, he was the suprime priest during that time, he was the most important and powerfull Jew, and we just have a few sentences about him in the Bible and a few sentences in Josephus. .....and nobody is skeptical of his existance and nobody argues that we would expect to to have more evidence about him.

How many sources indicate that Jesus was a mythical non historical creature ? Zero.
Paul never saw Jesus. Though he probably did speak with people that knew him. Oddly he thought that he knew Jesus better than those that actually knew him. That indicates some mental illness on his part.

Sources after his death are not worth anything.

But I do agree that there probably was a man called Jesus that the story is based upon. I would say that the Jesus story is a myth, not in the way that he never existed, but more in the way that Abraham Lincoln Vampire Killer is a myth.

There is sufficient evidence for the man Jesus, there is far from sufficient evidence for the God Jesus.
 
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