Are there any Flat Earth believers here?

[Subduction Zone]

I did not predict an arc, and I did not claim that one was formed. I don’t know who taught you how to read and comprehend english, but it’s clear that I myself claimed that an arc was not formed, because one was not formed. OK, the people got the measurements wrong — but at the end of the day an arc was not formed and I never claimed that an arc was formed.

Yes you did. You can't forget the statement "If the earth were round".

Did you or did you not use that condition?

 

[Tazarah]

That was yesterday. Or was it the day before? With all of this talk of conditional statements he may be able to understand a test. Though I doubt it.

Nobody knows everything, I never claimed to. I never claimed that anything is certainly this or certainly that. I don’t know everything and I admit that I can be wrong.

But the fact of the matter is, I never claimed that an arc was formed, and I said that one was not formed, yet here you are trying to convince me that I said the opposite of what I clearly said.

Lmao.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nobody knows everything, I never claimed to. I never claimed that anything is certainly this or certainly that. I don’t know everything and I admit that I can be wrong.

But the fact of the matter is, I never claimed that an arc was formed, and I said that one was not formed, yet here you are trying to convince me that I said the opposite of what I clearly said.

Lmao.

You still do not understand logic. Why did you dodge my question about sundaes? That makes it look as if you know that you are wrong.

Let's move on. No matter how many times you deny it you will be in error since your claim is there in print. Your words not mine.

Would you care to here a test on human evolution?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That was yesterday. Or was it the day before? With all of this talk of conditional statements he may be able to understand a test. Though I doubt it.

It was Sunday on the West Coast when that was posted, so, like, it was posted at some point in the future. But I see it now. Clearly you are using some sort of sorcery to make things line up in time even though the rest of the nation has been on Sunday for awhile. And it was at some point in the past when you posted it to others. But here we can all see this post at the same time, even though it's not the same time.
You're clearly an evil witch we must burn lest we provoke the wrath of the divines.

 

[Tazarah]

Yes you did. You can't forget the statement "If the earth were round".

Did you or did you not use that condition?

Yes I did. But does that automatically mean that the railway formed an arc? OK, the earth is curved, we all agree on that. But does that automatically mean that the railway in question

You still do not understand logic. Why did you dodge my question about sundaes? That makes it look as if you know that you are wrong.

Let's move on. No matter how many times you deny it you will be in error since your claim is there in print. Your words not mine.

Would you care to here a test on human evolution?

I just wanted to see how far you would go.

I know what I said, and everyone else can see what I said. I’ve been laughing my A off the whole time. I bet this dialogue between you and I was the most thrilling part of your saturday night, wasn’t it?

I never claimed an arc existed, because the railway that I was talking about never formed an arc. And I never said that it did.

This is what I posted originally, with the measurements and all — nowhere does the original post claim that an arc was made either:

“The London and Northwestern Railway forms a straight line 180 miles long between London and Liverpool. The railroad’s highest point, midway at Birmingham station, is only 240 feet above sea-level. If the world were actually a globe, however, curving 8 inches per mile squared, the 180 mile stretch of rail would form an arc with the center point at Birmingham raising over a mile, a full 5,400 feet above London and Liverpool.”

Do you have no friends in real life? Is that why you try so hard to boast your image on a religious website that actually means nothing in the real world? Is that why you try so hard to win literally every argument even in the cases when it is clear that you are wrong?

Perhaps the measurements in the experiment are wrong. Let’s say that they are, beyond a reasonable doubt.

At the end of the day the railway STILL did not form an arc, and at the end of the day I never claimed that it did.

Lmao

 

[Samantha Rinne]

Not me. Though someone made a convincing case to believe in the OT firmament. Simply because things spatially didn't add up.

No, it is not "round earth or not". I never said nor implied that. The fact is that the Earth is round. If it was a case of "not" you might be right.

In order for something to be a fact, it actually has to be proven. The alternative is a fact by fiat, meaning "because I said so."

But we have pictures from space!

You mean like this?

Looks about as realistic.

Pretty pictures. Honestly, we don't know, unless we personally venture outside.

Personally, Flat Earth doesn't work for me, because the horizon would extend alot farther.

So were are running under the assumption for the time being that, yes, the Earth is round. And by firmament, it would be what most people call our ozone layer. The shape works because the way we see is more or less obstructed, due to curve (although I'm pretty tentative about the shape, Earth could theoretically look like a burrito, and we'd not know from maps).

But that's not the point. The point is what's outside this layer. You see, somehow despite being at a high vantage point where you should be able to see around the curve you can see maximum 11-30 miles (nobody seems to agree).

https://www.quora.com/How-far-can-the-human-eye-see-on-perfectly-flat-land

But you can see light years away at night. At the same time, on a perfectly clear day (no clouds), you still cannot see stars. This suggests that our atmosphere is a sort of screen. But given the massive disparity of distance, how can we possibly know whether these stars are not just like a painted ceiling to look like stars in a night and clouds in the day. There btw is such a thing as glow in the dark paint. I could paint my room to have a cloudy sky look during the day and "stars" at night. And if you made a geodesic dome like that, well, you'd have basically a hemisphere.

Ultimately, no I'm not a Flat Earth type. I'm a Truman Show holographic universe type.

 

[Tazarah]

Not me. Though someone made a convincing case to believe in the OT firmament. Simply because things spatially didn't add up.



In order for something to be a fact, it actually has to be proven. The alternative is a fact by fiat, meaning "because I said so."

THANK YOU.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes I did. But does that automatically mean that the railway formed an arc? OK, the earth is curved, we all agree on that. But does that automatically mean that the railway in question

Since the Earth is round, yes. It logically follows.

I just wanted to see how far you would go.

I know what I said, and everyone else can see what I said. I’ve been laughing my A off the whole time. I bet this dialogue between you and I was the most thrilling part of your saturday night, wasn’t it?

I never claimed an arc existed, because the railway that I was talking about never formed an arc. And I never said that it did.

This is what I posted originally, with the measurements and all — nowhere does the original post claim that an arc was made either:

“The London and Northwestern Railway forms a straight line 180 miles long between London and Liverpool. The railroad’s highest point, midway at Birmingham station, is only 240 feet above sea-level. If the world were actually a globe, however, curving 8 inches per mile squared, the 180 mile stretch of rail would form an arc with the center point at Birmingham raising over a mile, a full 5,400 feet above London and Liverpool.”

Do you have no friends in real life? Is that why you try so hard to boast your image on a religious website that actually means nothing in the real world? Is that why you try so hard to win literally every argument even in the cases when it is clear that you are wrong?

Perhaps the measurements in the experiment are wrong. Let’s say that they are, beyond a reasonable doubt.

At the end of the day the railway STILL did not form an arc, and at the end of the day I never claimed that it did.

Lmao

And of course you claimed that an arc existed. It does not matter whether you now realize that the Earth is round or not, it is. I can show that it is round I have shown that it is round. It is sad that you cannot think logically or be honest. Even though you claim that others are liars you just admitted to being one.

And here is where you claimed that an arc would form again:

"however, curving 8 inches per mile squared, the 180 mile stretch of rail would form an arc with the center point at Birmingham raising over a mile, a full 5,400 feet above London and Liverpool.”"

It is poorly worded since the arc is not apparent in any way at all. I take that back. If there is a north south component due to the fact that the Earth is a sphere the star field would shift slightly.

And yes, at the end of the day you did make that claim. Your inability to reason logically does not take away that fact.

Your inability to follow the laws of logic does not change the past.

 

[Subduction Zone]

THANK YOU.

The Earth has been shown to be wrong. We do have photographs from space. And more.

Good night. I doubt if you will understand your error, but who knows. "Miracles" do happen at times.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I knew a flat Earther who at least put all the ice caps around the edge of the Earth, putting up a barrier to keep all the water from falling off the Earth.

 

[Tazarah]

The Earth has been shown to be wrong. We do have photographs from space. And more.

Good night. I doubt if you will understand your error, but who knows. "Miracles" do happen at times.

No error was made. You are the only person who feels that way, and that much is obvious. Everybody else here can read and understand english properly, and nobody here other than you tries to twist the words that people write in order to further their narrative.

But hey, at least you tried. Don’t be mad because nobody fell for your BS.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I knew a flat Earther who at least put all the ice caps around the edge of the Earth, putting up a barrier to keep all the water from falling off the Earth.

she forgot the turtle:

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Yeah, it’s just a huge coincidence. LMAO.

Not even slightly. Predicting a river might dry up one day? Is just good guessing.

NOT CREDIBLE. Just like 100% of your silliness.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

At least try Moses first. He also had a big effect on world history. Of course you probably think he's a myth.

But yes Santa Claus has had an effect on small children who think that the presents their parents give them come from some guy in a silly red hat.

But seriously, Santa Claus is based off of Saint Nicholas and he was apparently a real person.

Oh, there is no doubt Moses is a myth. All of Exodus? Myth. Zero evidence of ANY of the stories in that entire book.

Lots of evidence that nothing in Exodus never took place. Egyptian history is well established-- no mass leaving of former slaves. Never happened.

Without the mass exodus? No moses either.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Aja source ?

There are no sources from people who know alexander (from Wikipedia)

Your own link? SAYS APART FROM A FEW MANUSCRIPTS.

That? That is 100% MORE than your silly jesus myth.

Wow. You just shoot yourself in the foot over and over...

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

We have writings from Paul that could be traced back to within a few years (or months) after the crusifixtion (which is better than.

No. We do not have such things as you claim. It's not helping your case to lie.

Then we have 4 biographies (gospels) and acts written within 1 generation after the event. Witnesses where still alive..

No and ... not even a little. Again? Disingenuous.

we have extra biblical sources within 100-150 years like tacitus Josephus, Clement etc..

Not contemporary with the Magic Myth. Not historians, therefore-- they are just repeating gossip.

And as a bonus we have houndrets of other sources written within 200-400 years after his death,.

So what? Gossip. Not history.

This is extraordinary evidence, no other Palestinian jew from ancient history has as much evidence for it's existance as Jesus did..

Nope. Since you claim he is a Magic Jew? You need ... MAGIC EVIDENCE.

What you have instead? BARELY QUALIFIES AS GOSSIP.

Take Caephas for example, he was the suprime priest during that time, he was the most important and powerfull Jew, and we just have a few sentences about him in the Bible and a few sentences in Josephus. .....and nobody is skeptical of his existance and nobody argues that we would expect to to have more evidence about him..

Nope. He wasn't even born in time to be credible "witness".

How many sources indicate that Jesus was a mythical non historical creature ? Zero.

LMAO! That's not how it works, you silly person.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

We are discussing the historical existance of Jesus, not whether if he used magic or not.

Of which you have zero evidence. None. Nada. Not even a fragment.

Not to mention that Alexander was also described by ancient historiens as someone with magical powers

So? Nobody created a religion around Alexander.

NOBODY IS DENYING PEOPLE'S RIGHTS BASED ON A BOOK ABOUT ALEXANDER.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Gravity has been tested and proven.

When has human evolution been tested by the scientific method?

More times than you have taken a breath.

 

[leroy]

No. We do not have such things as you claim. It's not helping your case to lie.

Yes everything is a lie, new testament scholars are part of a secret organization intended to lie and control the population.


Thanks God we have people like Richard Carrier that are willing to expose the truth.

 

[Tazarah]

More times than you have taken a breath.

Really? When has anybody ever witnessed a fish turning into a human, or growing legs? Never.

Anybody ever watch an ape grow into a human? No.

Evolution is a hoax.

And no matter how you try to put it, life cannot come from a non-living source.