Are there questions God doesn't want you to ask?

[Spirit of Light]

Yes, but from a religious pov, imo, such questions are useless because we can only attempt to reason while we can never really understand God's wisdom.

Homosexual couples in the west sometimes have the option of adopting, I think.

For instance, some Muslims who want to make excuses to non-Muslims about Islam, try to explain how pork cannot be eaten "because the meat is like this.. and there's bacteria.. and these diseases.." All of which is true in itself, but the real reason we don't eat pork is that God forbade us to do so.

We can reason why homosexuality is harmful, but the number one reason we stay away from such a way of life, is that God told us to.

We can reason how music is harmful, but the reason we don't listen to it, is that God forbade us from making it or listening to it.

Etc.

Yes, when someone follow a religious or spiritual teaching they should follow all of it

 

[Piculet]

God is the Creator of every 'THING". Choices are not "things".

God did not create "death" for God is life and death is the absence of life. Death is not a "thing"
God is truth. He did not create lies for there is no lie in Him. Satan is the author of "lies". Lies is not a "thing" - it is the absence of truth.


Did that help?

It helped me understand your point of view. Thank you. I'll retrack a little now that I understand what you mean when you say that God did not create Shaytan. Yet, I do vehemently disagree with a lot of the things you say, from the Islamic point of view, nor do I believe — though I don't know much about the Bible — that Bible teaches all of what you describe.

Here's what islam teaches.

Allah says in the Holy Quran in Chapter 67 Surah Al Mulk verse 2:

He (Allah) created death and life that He may test you, to see which of you is the best in deeds.

The All-Knowing, All-Wise Lord bestowed two things upon Jinns and Humans which He did not bestow upon any in His Supreme Creation, and thus put only these two amongst all His creation to a test for a period of one life:

1. Intelligence or the Power of Reasoning
2. A free will for a limited period of one life-time to choose whatever path one wishes to live his life.

(...)
No one is born a Shaytaan, nor is the shaytaan a separate race or creed or creation of the Lord Creator; but rather it is the choice one amongst the Jinn or Human race makes, or the deeds one does of ones own free will that makes one Pious or makes one a Shaytaan.
(...)
Allah Says in the Holy Quran Chapter 7 Surah Aaraaf verses 11-25:

11 It is We who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the Angels bow down to Adam and they bowed down; not so Iblees (the Jinn); he refused to be of those who bow down.


12 (Allah) said: "what prevented thee (O Iblees) from bowing down when I commanded thee?" He (Iblees) said: "I am better than he: thou didst create me from fire and him from clay."

13 (Allah) said: "Get thee down from this: it is not for thee to be arrogant here: get out for thou art of the meanest (of creatures)."

14 He (Iblees) said: "give me respite till the day they are raised up."

15 (Allah) said: "be thou among those who have respite."

16 He (Iblees) said: "because Thou hast thrown me out of the way lo! I will lie in wait for them on Thy straight way.

17 "Then will I assault them from before them, and behind them, from their right, and their left: nor wilt Thou find in most of them gratitude (for Thy Mercies).

18 (Allah) said: "Get out from here, disgraced and expelled. If any of them follow thee, Hell will I fill with you all.

Why did Allah(SWT) create shatan(devil) if Allah - Islamhelpline

IF you consider "rape in marriage" THEN there are many serial rapists, even nowadays. Some get away to marry the girl or pay some money.

Some just are married and the rape occures now and then. Count in the relationships and that is the most common way that rape happens.

 

[Piculet]

Yes, when someone follow a religious or spiritual teaching they should follow all of it

And for the right reasons too — for the sake of Allah.

It is problematic if a Muslim today says that he doesn't eat pork because science says this or that, or that she wears the hijab to feel more modest and protected from stares, or that he doesn't commit adultery because he's afraid he will be caught by his wife.

These are, by common sense, reasons, but they are not the reasons that a Muslim should refrain from eating pork, wear the hijab and refrain from committing adultery. These are worldly concerns.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

God knew what would happen. He created them..... knowing exactly when, how and why they would do evil

Not according to the Bible. The Koran, maybe... not the Bible.

angels have a free will, how are they different from humans?

They aren't, in that respect.

 

[Spirit of Light]

And for the right reasons too — for the sake of Allah.

It is problematic if a Muslim today says that he doesn't eat pork because science says this or that, or that she wears the hijab to feel more modest and protected from stares, or that he doesn't commit adultery because he's afraid he will be caught by his wife.

These are, by common sense, reasons, but they are not the reasons that a Muslim should refrain from eating pork, wear the hijab and refrain from committing adultery. These are worldly concerns.

Any spiritual person should have little or no attachment to the worldly real. So yes I understand the rules that is put in place for those who practice a spiritual teaching

 

[Piculet]

Not according to the Bible. The Koran, maybe... not the Bible.

The Bible says God is all knowing. I don't know why all of a sudden I'm finding people who claim otherwise.

Job 37:16 "Do you know the balancings of the clouds,

the wondrous works of him who is perfect in knowledge,"

Psalm 139:2-4 "2 You know when I sit down and when I rise up;


you discern my thoughts from afar.


3 You search out my path and my lying down


and are acquainted with all my ways.


4 Even before a word is on my tongue,


behold, O Lord, you know it altogether."

Isaiah 46:9-10
"9 remember the former things of old;


for I am God, and there is no other;


I am God, and there is none like me,


10 declaring the end from the beginning


and from ancient times things not yet done,


saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,


and I will accomplish all my purpose,’"

John 3:19-20
19 "By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before him; 20 for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything."

 

[ChristineM]

Things came into being, I think, because certain laws couldn't forever go unexpressed. If there is nothing, it seems that this is the potential state where there might be something, and so something comes. Nothing, is the thing that fails to be in its way

There are several hypothesis, not many imply things just came into being. Here is one of the few

Spontaneous creation of the universe from nothing

 

[Aupmanyav]

Are there questions God doesn't want you to ask?: What will happen in future. All Gods and Goddesses do not know it, and Brahma, who is the in-charge for writing the future (Vidhata), is very secretive.

Yes, when someone follow a religious or spiritual teaching they should follow all of it

They should also not waste time in participating in forums. That time could have been used for praying to Allah.

 

[Thief]

picture the situation....pending

you stand before God and heaven
with the Devil right behind you.....
and you get to ask a question

wtf?

 

[Kenny]

Thank you for sharing.

The first point makes sense to me. And is a good reminder for myself, as it is not easy at all to really "feel the God connection"
I did not even know that "matrix" was mentioned in the Bible; so the movie had some Bible influence in it
"The males shall be the Lord's" is dubious IMO. I think many misused it to abuse women
The redemption part makes a lot of sense to me too

The last point is what happened after. He got angry with God, for not being approved, while his brother was. I thought of it, but dismissed it as it happened after the fact. But very true, it means that the anger was already in his heart. If there was only Love for God then he would accept God's Praise and God's Blame both the same. I know that God only loves me. Even if He would pretend to be angry with me, it is just to teach me a lesson; for my own good. It's His Grace in disguise

So, thanks again for "giving your take on this". Now this is more clear and makes more sense.

Glad it helped!

Yes, too many people have misused scriptures to subjugate women. That is why I love the Gospel... the spiritual head of the woman is Christ and in Christ there is neither male nor female.

There were so many principles in Matrix that can be likened to the spiritual principles in the Bible. Not all - a lot of philosophies of man stuck in there... but I enjoyed the movie and that which reminded me of biblical principles.

 

[Kenny]

The reference came from you. You were the one mentioning it in the quote above. I really needed to be creative to make sense out of that line

OOPS!!!!!!!!!

The devil got into the autocorrect. Or my fingers? LOL..

I will correct the auto- correct.

"life" and not "wife". HAHAHA!

Although my wife did get a hold of my life Celebrating 46 years in September.

 

[Piculet]

Yes, too many people have misused scriptures to subjugate women. That is why I love the Gospel... the spiritual head of the woman is Christ and in Christ there is neither male nor female.

1 Corinthians 11:3 "But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God."

 

[Kenny]

It helped me understand your point of view. Thank you. I'll retrack a little now that I understand what you mean when you say that God did not create Shaytan. Yet, I do vehemently disagree with a lot of the things you say, from the Islamic point of view, nor do I believe — though I don't know much about the Bible — that Bible teaches all of what you describe.

Here's what islam teaches.


Some just are married and the rape occures now and then. Count in the relationships and that is the most common way that rape happens.

Thanks for the update. Yes, we will disagree since our books teaches different things.

 

[stvdv]

OOPS!!!!!!!!!

The devil got into the autocorrect. Or my fingers? LOL..
I will correct the auto- correct.
"life" and not "wife". HAHAHA!

My first thought was "he must have meant life"
But such typo is impossible, W and L are far apart

I never thought of auto correct, because I never use it

Although my wife did get a hold of my life Celebrating 46 years in September.

So, she must be happy, I replied within 24 hours, to give you time to correct "Do your own thing and sin will grab hold of your wlife."

Congratulations with 46 years of marriage. My Master always said "Family that prays together stays together".
Not many in USA manage this. Of all current U.S. marriages, only 7 percent have reached the 50-year mark

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

"Why can't a gay couple raise children?"

Children need a mother figure in their life.
By the way how can two men or two women get children in the normal way? Two of same gender are not meant to get children ( nature law)

That is where many people see a problem.

Gay couples can and do raise children. Adoptive parents of the heterosexual variaty have also been known to raise children that they did not give birth to.

 

[stvdv]

Yes, too many people have misused scriptures to subjugate women.

Sadly this still happens too much, but at least it's getting more in the open now, so there is a chance it will get less

That is why I love the Gospel... the spiritual head of the woman is Christ and in Christ there is neither male nor female.

Very true. My Master explained it the same.

1 Corinthians 11:3 "But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God."

This is one of the verses that might be misinterpreted to subjugate women

The "worldly" head of the woman is man
The "spiritual" head of the woman is Christ
So, it makes sense after all.

 

[stvdv]

Children need a mother figure in their life.

This argument won't hold up with 2 lesbians having children; they have double mother figures in their lives

 

[stvdv]

Children need a mother figure in their life.

It's the "mother energy of love and compassion" that is important IMO. Some men do have this
And I am realistic. There are plenty women who do have children, but are not capable
And there are plenty gay who do have children and are very well capable

 

[stvdv]

Children need a mother figure in their life.

By the way how can two men or two women get children in the normal way? Two of same gender are not meant to get children ( nature law)

Tell that to "Mary"

 

[stvdv]

By the way how can two men or two women get children in the normal way? Two of same gender are not meant to get children ( nature law)

That is where many people see a problem.

No. That is not the problem.

The problem is that those people are judgmental.