Are there single fathers, who never married, with children in the West?

[Debater Slayer]

Indoctrinated by his mother and the media and government I'd say.

As opposed to being indoctrinated by some hateful lowlife clerics and misogynists? I would certainly take his "indoctrination" over that.

 

[Draka]

You would be.

Darn tootin' I raise my son to be a man, not a misogynist.

 

[Draka]

Vulgarity?? Where?

Penis.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Indoctrinated by his mother and the media and government I'd say.

Or just very bright and intelligent.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Penis.

Serious?

 

[Draka]

Serious?

Believe so. Considering my next post to him where I said it quite a bit and him calling it "sick" I'd say he has issues with people saying penis. Peeeeeeeniiiiis.

 

[Draka]

Careful, Mr. Thin Skin doesn't like it when anyone calls him dumb. He goes running to the site admins to report personal attacks. He's super sensitive and tends to weep like a wee child.

He's more than welcome to try to report my son calling his position "dumb", but as my son is not a member I wish him good luck with that.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Indoctrinated by his mother and the media and government I'd say.

By the way, I think you are underestimating the influence of critical thinking on unseating indoctrination. I was taught from childhood that women are not equal to men, that women are less logical and more emotional and therefore their testimony counts as half of a man's. I grew up in Saudi Arabia and was exposed to Friday prayer speeches there for nearly two decades, for crying out loud. If someone wants to be hateful, they will be hateful regardless of what they were taught or "indoctrinated." On the flip side, if someone is respectful to others, they will be respectful despite being taught otherwise once they can think for themselves.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Believe so. Considering my next post to him where I said it quite a bit and him calling it "sick" I'd say he has issues with people saying penis. Peeeeeeeniiiiis.

I just .... have no words.

I mean, that's the actual name of the body part. Are grown adults supposed to walk around calling it a pee-pee or something??

 

[Draka]

I just .... have no words.

I mean, that's the actual name of the body part. Are grown adults supposed to walk around calling it a pee-pee or something??

Or willy?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Or willy?

Ugh ... so much worse!

 

[Draka]

Ugh ... so much worse!

Weiner?

I made reference to "member" earlier but I certainly find that far worse than penis. I can't see or hear "member" and not have things like "his quivering swollen member pressed ..." come to mind

 

[columbus]

Ugh ... so much worse!

I agree.
Willy has such soft consonants and a downward slant.
Cock has superior hard consonants and a firmly upright jut.

Tom

 

[Draka]

Watch out people, this thread may become for too "vulgar" for him to return to. Wait, nix that, I think we may be on to something here.

 

[Robert.Evans]

As opposed to being indoctrinated by some hateful lowlife clerics and misogynists? I would certainly take his "indoctrination" over that.

That is the wonderful thing about choice isn't it, that it allows you to do that.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Darn tootin' I raise my son to be a man, not a misogynist.

That would be your idea of a man I guess. Which is somewhat worrying considering your ideas of women and femininity.

 

[Draka]

That would be your idea of a man I guess. Which is somewhat worrying considering your ideas of women and femininity.

That would be a man. A man like his father, like my father, like most men I know. Not...a misogynist.

 

[Robert.Evans]

That would be a man. A man like his father, like my father, like most men I know. Not...a misogynist.

Is that what you are saying I am? Misogynist means hatred of women.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Is that what you are saying I am? Misogynist means hatred of women.

Well, what do you think? Does saying that a gender "has no shame and cares only about money and power" qualify as hatred in your definition of the word?

 

[Robert.Evans]

By the way, I think you are underestimating the influence of critical thinking on unseating indoctrination.

I am not. But go ahead, I'll listen.

I was taught from childhood that women are not equal to men, that women are less logical and more emotional and therefore their testimony counts as half of a man's.

They do tend to be more emotional and less mechanically minded. That might be a problem in court and it might not be.

I grew up in Saudi Arabia and was exposed to Friday prayer speeches there for nearly two decades, for crying out loud.

haha, okay; which kinda explains you signature I guess.

If someone wants to be hateful, they will be hateful regardless of what they were taught or "indoctrinated."

Yeah, kinda. But if you are saying that it never has any effect I think that woul dbe wrong. We all follow our own self and we all are influenced by those around us.

On the flip side, if someone is respectful to others, they will be respectful despite being taught otherwise once they can think for themselves.

Sure. Though I have no reason as to why you would think that necessary to tell me, respectful though I am at hearing it. I do understand these things.