Are you capable of Loving Unconditionally????

[Bird123]

Also, god is all for abortion. I mean the number of miscarriages far out ways the number of abortions. God is the most prolific abortionist of all time, if he exists.

I never meant to get you upset. How about I give you a good answer?? Be who you must! It's a part of the plan! Life's lessons are best learned that way. I'm going to love you unconditionally regardless of your choices.

 

[Tristesse]

Abortion could never be considered entertainment for anyone. I do question your statistics. I may have to investigate this when I have time.

Please do. What they've found in most statistics are that most late-term abortions often occur when the mother is in harm of having the child. If you find differnent statistics please let me know, I'd like to be as accurate as possible.

 

[Bird123]

So, we only exist to breed like rabbits?

I don't see an overpopulation in rabbits. The system must be working. Life is the education of God's children. Breeding isn't the important thing unless we start to run out of people.

 

[Tristesse]

I never meant to get you upset. How about I give you a good answer?? Be who you must! It's a part of the plan! Life's lessons are best learned that way. I'm going to love you unconditionally regardless of your choices.

I'm not upset. I'm just debating your issue, this is the religious debates section, right? I get impassioned about what I believe, but not upset.

You're going to love me? You don't even know me.

 

[Tristesse]

I don't see an overpopulation in rabbits. The system must be working. Life is the education of God's children. Breeding isn't the important thing unless we start to run out of people.

There is definitely an overpopulation in humans.

 

[Bird123]

Yes, some people are not expecting to have kids and love it, but again it's not for everyone. Trust me, I've met parents who never wanted children and still would have preferred it that way. And I've met parents who never should have had children. The octo-mom comes to mind.

Can you really make judgment calls when you can not see the entire picture??? Our every action changes something in this world. It's not always about what we want. If it were, everybody would have it made.

 

[Tristesse]

Can you really make judgment calls when you can not see the entire picture??? Our every action changes something in this world. It's not always about what we want. If it were, everybody would have it made.

Yes, you can make judgements without seeing the whole picture, we do that all of the time.

 

[Storm]

Can you really make judgment calls when you can not see the entire picture??? Our every action changes something in this world. It's not always about what we want. If it were, everybody would have it made.

You just did, calling all abortion selfish.

 

[Bird123]

I'm not upset. I'm just debating your issue, this is the religious debates section, right? I get impassioned about what I believe, but not upset.

You're going to love me? You don't even know me.

I might not know you but you have great credentials. You are a Child of God.

 

[Bird123]

There is definitely an overpopulation in humans.

Is there really??? By what standards do you base this on??

 

[Tristesse]

I might not know you but you have great credentials. You are a Child of God.

No, I'm a child of my parents. And they have better credentials then the god of the bible or any ancient text could ever hope to achieve.

 

[Bird123]

You just did, calling all abortion selfish.

ooops. I recognize the error of my ways. Yes, I now understand the mess I got myself into. As for that brash statement all abortion is selfish, NEVERMIND!!!

 

[Storm]

ooops. I recognize the error of my ways. Yes, I now understand the mess I got myself into. As for that brash statement all abortion is selfish, NEVERMIND!!!

Cool. We all have kneejerk reactions from time to time.

 

[Tristesse]

Is there really??? By what standards do you base this on??

By the standards of reality. The worlds population has more than doubled within the past 50 years. There could be in the not too distant future a serious water shortage. How many people would you consider an overpopulation?

 

[Bird123]

No, I'm a child of my parents. And they have better credentials then the god of the bible or any ancient text could ever hope to achieve.

Throw all the holy books in the world away. I will be happier. Religion is a catalyst that forces so many problems to the surface so they have to be dealt with. That is the real reason religion exists. Deep down. we all know God whether we care to admit that or not. If you base God on what religion teaches, can you ever really know God??? I think not! OK, I'll love you unconditionally because you are a child of your parents. They are Children of God as well so it doesn't matter how far back you go. You won't change my mind!!!

 

[Tristesse]

Throw all the holy books in the world away. I will be happier. Religion is a catalyst that forces so many problems to the surface so they have to be dealt with. That is the real reason religion exists. Deep down. we all know God whether we care to admit that or not. If you base God on what religion teaches, can you ever really know God??? I think not! OK, I'll love you unconditionally because you are a child of your parents. They are Children of God as well so it doesn't matter how far back you go. You won't change my mind!!!

I'm not trying to change your mind about god. I'm trying to educate you about the issues surrounding abortion.

 

[Bird123]

By the standards of reality. The worlds population has more than doubled within the past 50 years. There could be in the not too distant future a serious water shortage. How many people would you consider an overpopulation?

Water shortage???? There are oceans of water on Earth. Sure, we might have to process it but mankind does have the technology to do it. I won't put a limit on population as long as everyone is comfortable. Of course, mankind has many other issues to deal with before that is possible. Maybe more people will force mankind to change. You never know.

 

[Tristesse]

Water shortage???? There are oceans of water on Earth. Sure, we might have to process it but mankind does have the technology to do it. I won't put a limit on population as long as everyone is comfortable. Of course, mankind has many other issues to deal with before that is possible. Maybe more people will force mankind to change. You never know.

HAHA! Yes everything on earth is for our usage. Who cares about the other living creatures we might be imposing on.

 

[Bird123]

HAHA! Yes everything on earth is for our usage. Who cares about the other living creatures we might be imposing on.

Using resources does not impose on other creatures. It's when greed does it to make the most money, short cutting the right way is where the problem comes in. Example: Mankind has the capability to get off fossil fuels all together yet greed prevents this. Sometimes easy isn't the best way. This Earth has a wonderful water cycle. There is unlimited water out there which after we use it will return into the cycle. It isn't going anywhere.

 

[magalaan]

Using resources does not impose on other creatures. It's when greed does it to make the most money, short cutting the right way is where the problem comes in. Example: Mankind has the capability to get off fossil fuels all together yet greed prevents this. Sometimes easy isn't the best way. This Earth has a wonderful water cycle. There is unlimited water out there which after we use it will return into the cycle. It isn't going anywhere.

I agree with you. There is no overpopulation, there is more greed than we can afford. So we have to be less greedy and share more, that does not do us any harm. And the greedy? They are never satisfied anyway.

I think the concern for resources is rather a materialistic viewpoint. In this view the human being is a body wanting to sustain itself through competition for resources. It is exactly this thinking that inspires people to grab as many resources as they possibly can. If it is all about struggle for survival by attaining resources than that is the rational thing to do. That is why systems build on this thinking can not solve the problems