Argh! Child Brides now Legal for Muslims in Germany and Denmark

[icehorse]

Both Germany and Denmark have recently altered their laws to allow Muslim men with child brides to legally immigrate. Argh!

Are there any cultural values these governments won't compromise on? Do the politicians in these countries have any morals at all? This is truly horrific.

 

[Iti oj]

Links

 

[Twilight Hue]

Links

Yea. It sounds pretty far fetched.

Seems This or That or The Onion.

 

[Iti oj]

Yea. It sounds pretty far fetched.

Seems This or That or The Onion.

Let us hope so.

 

[icehorse]

Links

Fair enough:

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9078/germany-child-marriage

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...-migrants-to-break-law-and-keep-child-brides/

 

[idav]

Fair enough:

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9078/germany-child-marriage

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...-migrants-to-break-law-and-keep-child-brides/

This article suggests they are trying to tighten the laws but it is of concern.
http://dw.com/en/germany-mulls-tighter-child-marriage-laws/a-19325588

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

... qu'est-ce que ****?

 

[Flame]

Hasn't this been an issue within Germany for awhile now? I could of sworn I found an article from earlier this year that had a judge say it was A-Okay because they didn't marry within the German borders.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Fair enough:

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9078/germany-child-marriage

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...-migrants-to-break-law-and-keep-child-brides/

Links from credible sources?

 

[Valjean]

Both Germany and Denmark have recently altered their laws to allow Muslim men with child brides to legally immigrate. Argh!

Are there any cultural values these governments won't compromise on? Do the politicians in these countries have any morals at all? This is truly horrific.

It sounds like they're just trying to accommodate a fait accompli.
How should these refugee families be treated? Should the families be broken up; the girls and children sent to orphanages?

 

[icehorse]

Links from credible sources?

And your list of credible sources would include?...

 

[icehorse]

It sounds like they're just trying to accommodate a fait accompli.
How should these refugee families be treated? Should the families be broken up; the girls and children sent to orphanages?

I'm not sure I share your definition of "family" in this sort of case... What do you think the odds of coercion are when a 14 year old girl is involved? Does that sound like a life of choice for such a girl?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

And your list of credible sources would include?...

Credible sources like CNN and the BBC. Not far-right anti-Islam sites.

 

[columbus]

It sounds like they're just trying to accommodate a fait accompli.
How should these refugee families be treated? Should the families be broken up; the girls and children sent to orphanages?

There is a huge grey area between "oh well, they're Muslims" and "send the girls to an orphanage".
How about mandatory counseling and education, with the option of getting out of the marriage with enforced financial support, up until the girl is 21?
If "their culture doesn't do things that way" they can go back to where they find the culture more accommodating. Sorry, but immigrants have no right to do things their way in a new country.
Tom

 

[Valjean]

In some cultures social roles and options are rigidly defined. It isn't 'fair', but it's the social norm; accepted by everyone, including the "victim."
Within the culture it's functional, and there are no alternatives open.

Should refugees and their social networks be rent asunder when they flee an untenable situation?

 

[Valjean]

There is a huge grey area between "oh well, they're Muslims" and "send the girls to an orphanage".
How about mandatory counseling and education, with the option of getting out of the marriage with enforced financial support, up until the girl is 21?
If "their culture doesn't do things that way" they can go back to where they find the culture more accommodating. Sorry, but immigrants have no right to do things their way in a new country.
Tom

Re-education is an option -- if you can pull it off.

 

[icehorse]

In some cultures social roles and options are rigidly defined. It isn't 'fair', but it's the social norm; accepted by everyone, including the "victim."
Within the culture it's functional, and there are no alternatives open.

Should refugees and their social networks be rent asunder when they flee an untenable situation?

No, we cannot give an inch. We cannot budge on our values. We can find other solutions, but we cannot codify such behavior.

 

[icehorse]

Credible sources like CNN and the BBC. Not far-right anti-Islam sites.

Any others on your list? CNN makes the grade? I completely agree that Gatestone has an agenda. I don't know much about the other source. But - once again - the claims stand or fall on their own, regardless of the messenger.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Any others on your list? CNN makes the grade? I completely agree that Gatestone has an agenda. I don't know much about the other source. But - once again - the claims stand or fall on their own, regardless of the messenger.

I'm talking about mainstream sources in general. I'll even accept FOX news. If you can't see that Breitbart isn't a good source just from the homepage, then I can't help you.

 

[Iti oj]

Any others on your list? CNN makes the grade? I completely agree that Gatestone has an agenda. I don't know much about the other source. But - once again - the claims stand or fall on their own, regardless of the messenger.

Brietbart is an alt right site, read white nationalist, read neo natzi.