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Arkansas inflicts child abuse on its school children

Let's say we have a new system, one where one out of a million people could cheat yet the number of cheaters is nonexistent. But with this system even though they met the standards 90% of blacks and other minorities could were unable to vote as a result. Is that a fair system? Hopefully you can see that it is not. That it is racist.
This is a unrealistic example in the US. Ballot harvesting, multiple voting days, mass ballot mailers etc. Are all recipes for fraud. If people can’t get their act together to vote in 2024 whether a voter ID or apply for an absentee ballot then sorry, that’s your problem. Every vote needs to be able to be verified as authentic and legal.
 

Subduction Zone

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This is a unrealistic example in the US. Ballot harvesting, multiple voting days, mass ballot mailers etc. Are all recipes for fraud. If people can’t get their act together to vote in 2024 whether a voter ID or apply for an absentee ballot then sorry, that’s your problem. Every vote needs to be able to be verified as authentic and legal.

How so? That is the claim. It is not supported by reality. There was no widescale voter fraud in the last election. The few examples of cheating that were found tended to be for Trump. An empty claim is worthless and a 'cure' that hurts minorities more than anyone else is racist, whether you like it or not.
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
Why are righty religionists so obsessed with sex, especially other peoples'?
Creepy.
Almost as creepy as fetus worship....
Since I quit the evolution/creationism debates, one of the things I started doing was visiting conservative media more, and specifically evangelical Christian media outlets. After doing that for over a year, I can confirm that you're absolutely correct....they are completely obsessed with other peoples' sex lives. The main thing I ask evangelicals (when I get the chance) on such issues is "What does it matter to you?" I've had several tell me that if a gay couple, or transgender person moved into their neighborhood, they would immediately go knock on their door and tell them what they think about their "lifestyle".

They really are a bunch of nosy busybodies who think it's their duty to go around judging everyone. "Creepy" is indeed the proper word here.
 

Subduction Zone

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Wrong brother, getting to 28 Trillion and rising probably to 30 this year isn’t small deficits, going to cause inflation and already seeing this.
I see that as usual you have no clue. We were talking about the deficit. The 20220 deficit is 3.1 trillion dollars. A huge amount, But something that is necessary at times.

You probably still do not see your error.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Nice try and another faulty attempt to prove your biased views

No, you used a logical fallacy where you pointed out that others do wrong things too so it is justified for you to do wrong things. That is the Tu Quoque fallacy. It is an admission that what you did is wrong.

Logic is a tool that you need to add to your skills.
 
Since I quit the evolution/creationism debates, one of the things I started doing was visiting conservative media more, and specifically evangelical Christian media outlets. After doing that for over a year, I can confirm that you're absolutely correct....they are completely obsessed with other peoples' sex lives. The main thing I ask evangelicals (when I get the chance) on such issues is "What does it matter to you?" I've had several tell me that if a gay couple, or transgender person moved into their neighborhood, they would immediately go knock on their door and tell them what they think about their "lifestyle".

They really are a bunch of nosy busybodies who think it's their duty to go around judging everyone. "Creepy" is indeed the proper word here.
Our society is saturated with the sex obsession, watch the commercials, tv shows, movies, half time shows. Our society is perverted, so Christians who know where that obsession leads should just be quiet and let the perverts, sex slave traders, run around unhindered is that right?
 

Subduction Zone

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Our society is saturated with the sex obsession, watch the commercials, tv shows, movies, half time shows. Our society is perverted, so Christians who know where that obsession leads should just be quiet and let the perverts, sex slave traders, run around unhindered is that right?
Oh my! Living in fantasy land.

Okay, number one you do not "know". You merely believe. If you knew you could support your claims. No one is saying that processes should be "unhindered" but the regulations needed are rational ones. Not ones based upon a false belief.
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
Our society is saturated with the sex obsession, watch the commercials, tv shows, movies, half time shows.
Yes, humans are sexual beings and marketers know sex sells.

Our society is perverted, so Christians who know where that obsession leads should just be quiet and let the perverts, sex slave traders, run around unhindered is that right?
That's the issue. Evangelicals think sex = perversion, which is your problem. The rest of us understand that acknowledging our sexual nature does not mean we're "perverted" and doesn't mean we're giving free reign to sex slave traders and the like.

Plus, given the number of sex and abuse scandals in Christian churches, I suggest y'all clean up your own house before you go around condemning everyone else.
 
No, you used a logical fallacy where you pointed out that others do wrong things too so it is justified for you to do wrong things. That is the Tu Quoque fallacy. It is an admission that what you did is wrong.

Logic is a tool that you need to add to your skills.
Wrong application and not what I was saying. Race baiters slandering and branding someone as a racists when they aren’t to further their cause and enrich themselves.
 
Yes, humans are sexual beings and marketers know sex sells.


That's the issue. Evangelicals think sex = perversion, which is your problem. The rest of us understand that acknowledging our sexual nature does not mean we're "perverted" and doesn't mean we're giving free reign to sex slave traders and the like.

Plus, given the number of sex and abuse scandals in Christian churches, I suggest y'all clean up your own house before you go around condemning everyone else.
Our culture is perverted
 
Yes, humans are sexual beings and marketers know sex sells.


That's the issue. Evangelicals think sex = perversion, which is your problem. The rest of us understand that acknowledging our sexual nature does not mean we're "perverted" and doesn't mean we're giving free reign to sex slave traders and the like.

Plus, given the number of sex and abuse scandals in Christian churches, I suggest y'all clean up your own house before you go around condemning everyone else.
Evangelicals don’t believe sex=perversion and a false statement
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Wrong application and not what I was saying. Race baiters slandering and branding someone as a racists when they aren’t to further their cause and enrich themselves.
Nope, you screwed up. And yes, there are always people that are willing to profit off of a situation. They could not do so if the situation did not exist. You are now just digging a deeper and deeper hole where you make the racism of those that you agree with more and more obvious. Nice job!
 
Plus, given the number of sex and abuse scandals in Christian churches, I suggest y'all clean up your own house before you go around condemning everyone else.
I agree and glad these abuse and scandals came out, no excuse for that deception and depravity. Agree clean your own house, this is accross the board and includes our whole society. Pointing out error is not condemning people.
 
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