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Nope. In fact very very few eyewitnesses.
This is why you need to read more than just the Bible to understand it.
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This is why you need to read more than just the Bible to understand it.
ElishaElijah
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You still sticking with this comment after I showed you that they were at Jerusalem like Jesus directed them before He ascended to Heaven after He rose from the dead.
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No, you did not. You only showed that it said that in Acts. Why believe that? The Bible is not evidence for the Bible. That is circular reasoning. Once again the Bible is only the claim.
ElishaElijah
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Only one I need and all I was talking about. What the Bible says and teaches. Which you replied you know better but proved you don’t. Although you haven’t shared your endless evidence for evolution which definitely isn’t evidence at all unless your talking the mutations of birds or changes that happen when species change due to environment but an ape has always been an ape never evolve to a human, if that’s what you mean by evolution.
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No, you only found a small passage that you remember better than I do. You still cannot understand it because you believe that even the clearly mythological parts are factual. That ends up discrediting your claims more than my minor slip did. For example you still have the false belief of "eyewitnesses".
ElishaElijah
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“That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life— the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us— that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ. And these things we write to you that your joy may be full.”
I John 1:1-4 NKJV
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ElishaElijah
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An eyewitness
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Why would you believe that? It is a just a vague claim and gives a person no reason to take it at face value especially when you consider when it was written and the language that it was written in.
ElishaElijah
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The Apostles weren’t liars and their lives testified and proved the Scriptures same as the Prophets and the rest of the people that recorded God’s Word as the Holy Spirit directed them. All you’re proving is that you don’t believe what they wrote. I do because I’ve been given the same Holy Spirit.
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Very little is actually known of the apostles. Peter is the only one that appears to have stuck around. For the same reasons that you probably do not believe that Muhammad rode a horse over the Moon I do not believe the unsupported claims of the Gospels.
ElishaElijah
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Your prerogative and view, I see and know plenty about the apostles and that’s my view. I find the Scriptures to be true and reliable. I’ve tested and lived them for a while now.
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Incorrect. You only believe. And you have demonstrated that you have not properly tested the scriptures and appear to be afraid to do so.
If you tested them properly you would know of the failures of the scriptures.
ElishaElijah
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Only way I know to properly test the Scriptures is to trust what God says in them and live them out
ElishaElijah
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Would be better for you to rephrase these comments they’re unnecessary and pointless.
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Nope. That is a failure on your part. That is extremely circular reasoning
Here is a clue: The test need a clear way for the Bible to possibly fail.
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No. They are correct. They are factual. If you truly knew you could properly support your claims.
ElishaElijah
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Comments a troll would make and false
ElishaElijah
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That’s not circular and shows you don’t understand Scripture.
“But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.”
James 1:22-25 NKJV
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You need to quit lying.
If you do not understand then admit it. Do not name call. That is against the rules here.