Arkansas inflicts child abuse on its school children

[Subduction Zone]

That’s not circular and shows you don’t understand Scripture.
“But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.”
‭‭James‬ ‭1:22-25‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Yes, it is. Sorry, but until you demonstrate that the Bible is trustworthy it is just another book.

By the way, a book that has been refuted time and again if one makes your mistakes.

 

[ElishaElijah]

You need to quit lying.

If you do not understand then admit it. Do not name call. That is against the rules here.

What name calling and I don’t lie

 

[Subduction Zone]

What name calling and I don’t lie

Yes, you did. You tried to claim that I was trolling. That is both name calling since it is a way of calling someone a troll. And it is a lie. My posts were correct. At best you did not understand the errors you made and were corrected on.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Yes, you did. You tried to claim that I was trolling. That is both name calling since it is a way of calling someone a troll. And it is a lie. My posts were correct. At best you did not understand the errors you made and were corrected on.

Your post are false and posted the comments that you made that a troll would make. I told you go talk to someone else and you’re still make
Unsolicited comments meant to provoke and no value.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your post are false and posted the comments that you made that a troll would make. I told you go talk to someone else and you’re still make
Unsolicited comments meant to provoke and no value.

No, my post was clearly true. You demonstrated that yourself. You claimed to know when you clearly only believe.

Instead of lying you should have asked questions.

And just because you do not understand a post does not mean that it does not have any value. Ask questions. Don't spew falsehoods.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

What do you mean by that? You call adults promoting sex change for children, individual liberty? By the way, individual liberty wasn’t the subject.

Well, invasive gender re-assignment surgery just flat-out isn't performed on children. It's performed on consenting adults only, and only after months (if not years) of medical examination.

So, yeah, it's a matter of personal liberty.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Well, invasive gender re-assignment surgery just flat-out isn't performed on children. It's performed on consenting adults only, and only after months (if not years) of medical examination.

So, yeah, it's a matter of personal liberty.

The subject was what’s considered child abuse in school by what is taught and promoted by adults to children. So yes, promoting gender reassignment to children is child abuse. So you’ll have to start a individual liberty discussion thread else if you want to go there.
So teaching children that God is the Creator in science class isn’t child abuse. Should be up to the parents

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

When I was in school I learned evolution, creationism, creation (not the same thing) and even something about life coming from other planets. All of those were presented as theories and the teachers left it up to us to make up our minds when we got older and had a better understanding of all that.
Didn't hurt me a bit, on the contrary, it was good to know.

I would have no issue with Creationism being presented the way aether or phlogiston was presented to us in my science classes: as ideas that once had a fair bit of acceptance and were consistent with the facts available, but then were generally abandoned as serious notions once they were contradicted by new discoveries.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

The subject was what’s considered child abuse in school by what is taught and promoted by adults to children. So yes, promoting gender reassignment to children is child abuse.

1) In what way is gender reassignment being "promoted" to children?

2) In what way is teaching children about recommended medical procedures abuse?

3) You have gone from talking about promoting gender reassignment FOR children, to promoting gender reassignment TO children. These are clearly two different things. Do you acknowledge that gender reassignment surgery is NOT performed on children?

4) Do you or do you not acknowledge that children who are diagnosed with gender dysphoria and given treatment in the form of gender transition are less likely to suffer from future mental disorders and suicide? With this in mind, does that not mean that NOT educating children on gender reassignment actually IS child abuse, since all it does is cause unnecessary harm to children who suffer from gender dysphoria?

So you’ll have to start a individual liberty discussion thread else if you want to go there.

I just think it's impossible to deny the right of gender reassignment while also believing in individual liberty.

So teaching children that God is the Creator in science class isn’t child abuse.

Yes, it is, because it's forcing children to accept a lie that is detrimental to their education and mental wellbeing (that being thay any mention of God is relevant in science).

Should be up to the parents

Parents don't get to decide what is and is not science.

 

[ElishaElijah]

1) In what way is gender reassignment being "promoted" to children?

2) In what way is teaching children about recommended medical procedures abuse?

3) You have gone from talking about promoting gender reassignment FOR children, to promoting gender reassignment TO children. These are clearly two different things. Do you acknowledge that gender reassignment surgery is NOT performed on children?

4) Do you or do you not acknowledge that children who are diagnosed with gender dysphoria and given treatment in the form of gender transition are less likely to suffer from future mental disorders and suicide? With this in mind, does that not mean that NOT educating children on gender reassignment actually IS child abuse, since all it does is cause unnecessary harm to children who suffer from gender dysphoria?


I just think it's impossible to deny the right of gender reassignment while also believing in individual liberty.


Yes, it is, because it's forcing children to accept a lie that is detrimental to their education and mental wellbeing (that being thay any mention of God is relevant in science).


Parents don't get to decide what is and is not science.

Parents get to decide what their children are taught in school.
*Teaching children the truth of Creation is correct teaching, nothing wrong with a school teaching this.
*Teaching children and gender reassignment is abnormal and child abuse, a boy can never become a woman and a girl can never become a man.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Parents get to decide what their children are taught in school.
*Teaching children the truth of Creation is correct teaching, nothing wrong with a school teaching this.
*Teaching children and gender reassignment is abnormal and child abuse, a boy can never become a woman and a girl can never become a man.

Only within limits

And since the creation story is a myth that was refuted over a hundred years ago it is abuse to teach it as a fact.

 

[ElishaElijah]

You have gone from talking about promoting gender reassignment FOR children, to promoting gender reassignment TO children. These are clearly two different things. Do you acknowledge that gender reassignment surgery is NOT performed on children?

Not sure to what extent exactly but the grooming and promoting in schools by adults is child abuse, the actual surgery probably is later on. Teachers I know have said this is hidden from parents, teachers are encouraged to call children by the opposite sex at school and not allowed to tell parents.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Only within limits

And since the creation story is a myth that was refuted over a hundred years ago it is abuse to teach it as a fact.

Show your proof of creation as false because I know it to be true that God is the Creator. There may be some timelines/dates that can be disputed and argued but God as the Creator has not been refuted only denied.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Show your proof of creation as false because I know it to be true that God is the Creator. There may be some timelines/dates that can be disputed and argued but God as the Creator has not been refuted only denied.

Fine. The first thing that you need to learn are the basics of science. If you have any questions please ask. First off there is the scientific method:

That is a simplified version of the scientific method. Any objections?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Parents get to decide what their children are taught in school.

Nope. This has basically never been the case.

*Teaching children the truth of Creation is correct teaching, nothing wrong with a school teaching this.

False and false. Creationism has never been demonstrated to be true, and teaching it as science is just lying to children.

*Teaching children and gender reassignment is abnormal and child abuse, a boy can n never become a woman and a girl can never become a man.

So, you're just in favour of lying to children and harming transgender youths?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Not sure to what extent exactly but the grooming and promoting in schools by adults is child abuse,

I previously asked you to provide an example of schools doing this. Do you have any specific examples or are you just making stuff up?

the actual surgery probably is later on.

Then what you said earlier was inaccurate, and I would like you to admit that.

Teachers I know have said this is hidden from parents, teachers are encouraged to call children by the opposite sex at school and not allowed to tell parents.

Yep. You're now just making stuff up.

Isn't it weird how you feel the need to lie to support your agenda?

Unless you're just talking about teachers being told not to mis-gender children, which is just the right thing to do.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Nope. This has basically never been the case.

Always been the case

 

[ElishaElijah]

Yep. You're now just making stuff up.

Nope not making it up, you should be alarmed

 

[ElishaElijah]

Isn't it weird how you feel the need to lie to support your agenda?

I don’t lie, just because you are ignorant of what’s going on in schools. I have the information from teachers.

 

[ElishaElijah]

So, you're just in favour of lying to children and harming transgender youths?

Yes adults are lying to children when they say the children are transgender and promote that, this harming them instead of dealing with the root issues causing the confusion.