Arkansas inflicts child abuse on its school children

[ecco]

Summary of Scientific Evidence for Creation (Part I & II)

You will have to list the “lies” and the things that you disagree with in the article

You were lazy. You did not even quote anything from it.

It is so much easier to just post a link than to actually have knowledge.

 

[ecco]

By the way did you realize Isaiah says that God sits above the circle of the Earth? Doesn’t sound like flat earth to me, but you keep falsely saying that the Bible teaches that. Isaiah 40 is a great chapter.

Yes. A circle. The Flat Earth is circular with the outer regions all being frozen ice fields.

I'm sure Isaiah knew the difference between a circle and a sphere. After all, three were somewhat spherical stones around even 6000 years ago. Yet he specifically said "circle".

Worse yet, you made the assertion that a flat earth wasn't circular!

 

[ElishaElijah]

You need to quit saying "assumption". Once again you demonstrate that you failed geometry. On a spherical Earth climbing a tall mountain will not help you see all of the "kingdoms of the World". There were many kingdoms of the World at that time. They were not limited to the Middle East. Guess where climbing a tall mountain would let you see all of the kingdoms of

You need to quit saying "assumption". Once again you demonstrate that you failed geometry. On a spherical Earth climbing a tall mountain will not help you see all of the "kingdoms of the World". There were many kingdoms of the World at that time. They were not limited to the Middle East. Guess where climbing a tall mountain would let you see all of the kingdoms of the World? On a flat Earth. Nowhere else.

You weren’t there when Satan said that and had nothing to do with the shape of the Earth, that’s why it’s a false assumption on your part.

 

[ElishaElijah]

It is so much easier to just post a link than to actually have knowledge.

I’m not in the habit of posting a full page of information on a forum so if I find something that I agree with I will send that instead. You do you bro.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Yes. A circle. The Flat Earth is circular with the outer regions all being frozen ice fields.

I'm sure Isaiah knew the difference between a circle and a sphere. After all, three were somewhat spherical stones around even 6000 years ago. Yet he specifically said "circle".

Worse yet, you made the assertion that a flat earth wasn't circular!

Yeah because according to you guys a circle has 4 corners. And what about in Psalms when Davis says as far as the East is from the West God has removed our transgressions from us? Sorry brother you’re clueless. Anyone who traveled any distance or looked on the horizon would understand but you’re just proving how you don’t understand the Scriptures.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You weren’t there when Satan said that and had nothing to do with the shape of the Earth, that’s why it’s a false assumption on your part.

LOL!! You are ignoring the key part of the myth. The only way to see "all of the kingdoms of the World". Is if that World was flat. That is the way that geometry works. From even the tallest of mountains on our spherical world one can see only a few hundred miles at best.

 

[ElishaElijah]

LOL!! You are ignoring the key part of the myth. The only way to see "all of the kingdoms of the World". Is if that World was flat. That is the way that geometry works. From even the tallest of mountains on our spherical world one can see only a few hundred miles at best.

You know what brother? I think people could look up at the Sun and Moon and realize the Earth wasn’t flat. Only people of this century believe nonsense.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You know what brother? I think people could look up at the Sun and Moon and realize the Earth wasn’t flat. Only people of this century believe nonsense.

No, you merely see that because we now know that the Earth is a sphere. Back in Biblical times a Flat Earth belief was very common. The work of Eratosthenes is famous because he gave the first strong evidence that the Earth is a sphere. People sometimes ace a class but do not understand how to apply it. If you did you would see how the Bible describes the Earth as flat again and again and never refers to it as a sphere.

Eratosthenes - Wikipedia

 

[ElishaElijah]

No, you merely see that because we now know that the Earth is a sphere. Back in Biblical times a Flat Earth belief was very common. The work of Eratosthenes is famous because he gave the first strong evidence that the Earth is a sphere. People sometimes ace a class but do not understand how to apply it. If you did you would see how the Bible describes the Earth as flat again and again and never refers to it as a sphere.

Eratosthenes - Wikipedia

When do you think the earth was proven to be a sphere? There you go BC, so your theory isn’t correct about Satan tempting Jesus on the mountain. No matter, believe what you want.

 

[Subduction Zone]

When do you think the earth was proven to be a sphere?

The date of his experiment is roughly 240 BCE. If you were familiar with the sciences you would know that there is no formal "proof" there is merely evidence. But if you go by the legal standard of "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" then it would be the date of that experiment.

You appear to be unfamiliar with the Hebrew version of the world. It was flat with a solid dome (a "firmament").

When the Earth was flat: a map of the universe, according to the Old Testament

 

[ElishaElijah]

The date of his experiment is roughly 240 BCE. If you were familiar with the sciences you would know that there is no formal "proof" there is merely evidence. But if you go by the legal standard of "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" then it would be the date of that experiment.

You appear to be unfamiliar with the Hebrew version of the world. It was flat with a solid dome (a "firmament").

When the Earth was flat: a map of the universe, according to the Old Testament

And the Church is the pillar and support of the Truth so I guess you can draw a picture of that the same way you’re looking at those verses of Scripture. Matthew in AD certainly wouldnt have thought the earth was flat.

 

[Subduction Zone]

And the Church is the pillar and support of the Truth so I guess you can draw a picture of that the same way you’re looking at those verses of Scripture. Matthew in AD certainly wouldnt have thought the earth was flat.

But that was clearly not what was meant by that. Where if you try to understand what the author was actually writing the image that I posted was far closer.

That they were ignorant of the shape of the Earth is not an attack against them. It is not calling them stupid. It takes a while to figure out some of these things.

 

[Earthtank]

1) In what way is gender reassignment being "promoted" to children?

2) In what way is teaching children about recommended medical procedures abuse?

3) You have gone from talking about promoting gender reassignment FOR children, to promoting gender reassignment TO children. These are clearly two different things. Do you acknowledge that gender reassignment surgery is NOT performed on children?

4) Do you or do you not acknowledge that children who are diagnosed with gender dysphoria and given treatment in the form of gender transition are less likely to suffer from future mental disorders and suicide? With this in mind, does that not mean that NOT educating children on gender reassignment actually IS child abuse, since all it does is cause unnecessary harm to children who suffer from gender dysphoria?


I just think it's impossible to deny the right of gender reassignment while also believing in individual liberty.


Yes, it is, because it's forcing children to accept a lie that is detrimental to their education and mental wellbeing (that being thay any mention of God is relevant in science).


Parents don't get to decide what is and is not science.

Nothing you said makes sense or even addresses what you were replying to lol

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Nothing you said makes sense or even addresses what you were replying to lol

Having trouble reading? I can help, if you need it.

 

[ecco]

I’m not in the habit of posting a full page of information on a forum so if I find something that I agree with I will send that instead. You do you bro.

I wasn't asking you to cut and paste and post a full page of information. I was suggesting that you would have more credibility if you took the time to excerpt those key segments that support your argument. Then write something, in your own words, to show how those segments actually support your argument. That would show that...

1. You are not just too lazy.
2. You actually have read the article and can show how it supports your argument.

But, as you said, "You do you, bro". We've come to expect nothing and you continue to meet our expectations.

 

[ElishaElijah]

I wasn't asking you to cut and paste and post a full page of information. I was suggesting that you would have more credibility if you took the time to excerpt those key segments that support your argument. Then write something, in your own words, to show how those segments actually support your argument. That would show that...

1. You are not just too lazy.
2. You actually have read the article and can show how it supports your argument.

But, as you said, "You do you, bro". We've come to expect nothing and you continue to meet our expectations.

I already said that the article expressed what I was saying. Someone said post a reference and I did, sorry you don’t like my references or sources, people are in the habit of dismissing the source and don’t address the merits or find one thing wrong and dismiss all, or twist what’s said, so comment on the merits of the article or not. And you do you.

 

[ecco]

Yeah because according to you guys a circle has 4 corners.

If I'm not mistaken, it's your Godly inspired Bible that talks about circles and four corners. Neither of which show knowledge of the earth being a sphere. Your Creator God surely knew the earth was a sphere. Either he didn't bother to communicate this fact to the authors, or your Bible was not inspired by a god but is just based on the beliefs of the common man of 6000 years ago.

And what about in Psalms when Davis says as far as the East is from the West God has removed our transgressions from us?

Well, let's see...

5Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.​

Is your youth really renewed, or are you just getting older like the rest of us?

6The LORD executeth righteousness and judgment for all that are oppressed.​

Except, of course his enemies whose slaughter He approves of.

8The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.​

This was written after your God mercilessly wiped out almost all of humanity. He also mercilessly killed off all the animals. What did elephants and kittens do to deserve such mercy?

9He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.​

So, after wiping out almost all of humanity, He was no longer angry. Wonderful.

11For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.​

More mercy? Really? See excerpt * from Judges below.

As for heaven, science knows the atmosphere ends around 60 miles above the surface of the earth. Is this where your heaven starts?

12As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.​

Flat earthers acknowledge an east and a west. So, what's your point?

13Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him.
I never pitied my children. It's a bad father who pities his children. That's not something to be proud of, in a father or a god.

You are really are into fear, aren't you? With stories like this, it's no wonder.

* Judges...
5And the children of Israel said, Who is there among all the tribes of Israel that came not up with the congregation unto the LORD? For they had made a great oath concerning him that came not up to the LORD to Mizpeh, saying, He shall surely be put to death. 6And the children of Israel repented them for Benjamin their brother, and said, There is one tribe cut off from Israel this day. 7How shall we do for wives for them that remain, seeing we have sworn by the LORD that we will not give them of our daughters to wives?

Provision for Benjamin's Survival

8And they said, What one is there of the tribes of Israel that came not up to Mizpeh to the LORD? And, behold, there came none to the camp from Jabeshgilead to the assembly. 9For the people were numbered, and, behold, there were none of the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead there. 10And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children. 11And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man. 12And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan.​

Dare we ask how they knew which young females were virgins and which were not?

Sorry brother you’re clueless.

One short sentence, two mistakes.

Anyone who traveled any distance or looked on the horizon would understand but you’re just proving how you don’t understand the Scriptures.

Oh, we understand the self-contradictory scriptures. We also understand that the scriptures were written by men whose concept of the world was very different than we now know. We also understand the lengths some people go to to try to convince themselves that their scriptures are, at least, plausible.

 

[ecco]

I already said that the article expressed what I was saying. Someone said post a reference and I did, sorry you don’t like my references or sources, people are in the habit of dismissing the source and don’t address the merits or find one thing wrong and dismiss all, or twist what’s said, so comment on the merits of the article or not. And you do you.

If you cannot excerpt portions of an article to show support for your argument
-and-
If you cannot comment, in your own words, on the key points of an article

It's because...

• You haven't read it yourself
• You don't really understand it
• It doesn't support your argument
• You're too lazy to present a meaningful argument

Therefore, there is no reason for me to bother reading it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I already said that the article expressed what I was saying. Someone said post a reference and I did, sorry you don’t like my references or sources, people are in the habit of dismissing the source and don’t address the merits or find one thing wrong and dismiss all, or twist what’s said, so comment on the merits of the article or not. And you do you.

If a person chooses a poor source and is too lazy to even quote from it that tends to show that the person is actually embarrassed by that source and merely pointing out how it is a poor source refutes the argument.


For example the claims of "evidence" by the ICR article. I could not even find any evidence in it. It was not my article so if I quoted something that you did not think was evidence either you could have claimed that I was making a strawman argument. And you might have had a point. That is why I demanded that you quote your own article. That is your job. It is not the job of others.

 

[ElishaElijah]

If I'm not mistaken, it's your Godly inspired Bible that talks about circles and four corners. Neither of which show knowledge of the earth being a sphere. Your Creator God surely knew the earth was a sphere. Either he didn't bother to communicate this fact to the authors, or your Bible was not inspired by a god but is just based on the beliefs of the common man of 6000 years ago.





Well, let's see...

5Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.​

Is your youth really renewed, or are you just getting older like the rest of us?

6The LORD executeth righteousness and judgment for all that are oppressed.​

Except, of course his enemies whose slaughter He approves of.

8The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.​

This was written after your God mercilessly wiped out almost all of humanity. He also mercilessly killed off all the animals. What did elephants and kittens do to deserve such mercy?

9He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.​

So, after wiping out almost all of humanity, He was no longer angry. Wonderful.

11For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.​

More mercy? Really? See excerpt * from Judges below.

As for heaven, science knows the atmosphere ends around 60 miles above the surface of the earth. Is this where your heaven starts?

12As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.​

Flat earthers acknowledge an east and a west. So, what's your point?

13Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him.
I never pitied my children. It's a bad father who pities his children. That's not something to be proud of, in a father or a god.

You are really are into fear, aren't you? With stories like this, it's no wonder.

* Judges...
5And the children of Israel said, Who is there among all the tribes of Israel that came not up with the congregation unto the LORD? For they had made a great oath concerning him that came not up to the LORD to Mizpeh, saying, He shall surely be put to death. 6And the children of Israel repented them for Benjamin their brother, and said, There is one tribe cut off from Israel this day. 7How shall we do for wives for them that remain, seeing we have sworn by the LORD that we will not give them of our daughters to wives?

Provision for Benjamin's Survival

8And they said, What one is there of the tribes of Israel that came not up to Mizpeh to the LORD? And, behold, there came none to the camp from Jabeshgilead to the assembly. 9For the people were numbered, and, behold, there were none of the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead there. 10And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children. 11And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man. 12And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan.​

Dare we ask how they knew which young females were virgins and which were not?



One short sentence, two mistakes.



Oh, we understand the self-contradictory scriptures. We also understand that the scriptures were written by men whose concept of the world was very different than we now know. We also understand the lengths some people go to to try to convince themselves that their scriptures are, at least, plausible.

The simple answer is you’re assuming you have wisdom and understanding of the Scriptures and God. You don’t and that’s why you misinterpret and put your own meaning on them. This is your error.