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Arrogance of religion

SalixIncendium

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How can people act like written text translated and misinterpreted and filled with contradictions is factual and talk like because something is written in one of those books that it should be taken as fact
I won't speak for other people or their scripture. My scripture is not intended to present facts. My understandings arise from my experiences. My scripture validates these understandings.
 

SalixIncendium

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Can you go over some experiences and how they led to understandings for you
I won't present them in a debate venue, as these experiences and the knowledge gained from them are not subject to debate. However, they have been presented in other non-debate areas of the forum if you would like to review them.

The purpose of my response to you in this thread was to point out that your assumptions about "the arrogance of religion" comes from a very limited sample. All "people" don't "act" the way you presented in your OP.
 
I won't present them in a debate venue, as these experiences and the knowledge gained from them are not subject to debate. However, they have been presented in other non-debate areas of the forum if you would like to review them.

The purpose of my response to you in this thread was to point out that your assumptions about "the arrogance of religion" comes from a very limited sample. All "people" don't "act" the way you presented in your OP.
Pretty bold assumption to think I have a limited sample for my statements. I didn't say all people act this way I just asked why people do it. I could correct it to some people if need be but we are far off the point now, all good
 

InChrist

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How can people act like written text translated and misinterpreted and filled with contradictions is factual and talk like because something is written in one of those books that it should be taken as fact
Probably they have researched and investigated the texts enough to see there is a supernatural element or Author who orchestrated the information and continuity of the biblical scriptures ( if that is what you are referring to) and see no contradictions.
 

SalixIncendium

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Pretty bold assumption to think I have a limited sample for my statements.
Again, no assumptions. Statements made based on what you posted.

Your title makes a blanket statement about religion. If you meant a specific religion, then be specific. Otherwise, it can be expected that one would understand what you said as all religion. Same goes with your statements about texts and people.

I didn't say all people act this way I just asked why people do it. I could correct it to some people if need be but we are far off the point now, all good
There is something to said about being impeccable with your word. If you leave what you say to interpretation, then expect it to be interpreted in ways you didn't intend.
 
Again, no assumptions. Statements made based on what you posted.

Your title makes a blanket statement about religion. If you meant a specific religion, then be specific. Otherwise, it can be expected that one would understand what you said as all religion. Same goes with your statements about texts and people.


There is something to said about being impeccable with your word. If you leave what you say to interpretation, then expect it to be interpreted in ways you didn't intend.
It is for all religion, haven't seen a sound one yet free of contradictions and stupidity. And it was an assumption, just because you wrote it as a statement doesn't mean you were assuming it to be true
 
Please post an example of a contradiction in the Upanishads.


Huh?
Well it has been seen with tons of differing translations, continues to talk about self when we are never truly one conscious entity, they don't agree on atman and Brahman being identical or not, Brahman is said to be beyond the reach of human perception and thought and yet as i read about it i can perceive it and have thought of it before but also if this is all rooted in the self then how can it be first thought of. Also anything with sacrificing animals like a horse is just a no go for me
 

SalixIncendium

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Well it has been seen with tons of differing translations, continues to talk about self when we are never truly one conscious entity, they don't agree on atman and Brahman being identical or not, Brahman is said to be beyond the reach of human perception and thought and yet as i read about it i can perceive it and have thought of it before but also if this is all rooted in the self then how can it be first thought of. Also anything with sacrificing animals like a horse is just a no go for me
Who is "they" that don't agree on Atman and Brahman being identical? The Upanishads? Which ones specifically?

In what you wrote above, I'm not seeing any contractions; only your own disagreement and misunderstanding.
 
Who is "they" that don't agree on Atman and Brahman being identical? The Upanishads? Which ones specifically?

In what you wrote above, I'm not seeing any contractions; only your own disagreement and misunderstanding.
Imagine speaking for someone's level of understanding, so writing about Brahman which is apparently beyond our reach of thought isn't a contradiction to you? Weird
 

SalixIncendium

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Imagine speaking for someone's level of understanding, so writing about Brahman which is apparently beyond our reach of thought isn't a contradiction to you? Weird
No. Just because Brahman is beyond words doesn't mean one cannot attempt to explain the nature of that being using words. One can read everything has been written about Brahman...listen to every lecture by every sage...and still remain in ignorance of the nature of Brahman. Brahman isn't attainable through thought, so it is verily beyond the reach of thought.
 
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