Arrogance of religion

Jimmy · Nov 14, 2024

IamYourYahaweh said:
To me it is embodied in many physical material forms at least from my perspective so in a way it is both but when I imagine it I imagine something immaterial because anytime I have felt it's presence or been in contact or felt that way I have realized it is far too big and poweful for me to ever even begin to try and understand or want to

My god is infinite material space which I think is even more powerful and awe inspiring than an immaterial god.

Jimmy · Nov 14, 2024

IndigoChild5559 said:
Um, actually you did. But I've already invested way more time in this discussion than it deserves. I have already twice quoted what you said. If you are interested, you can scroll back. If you aren't interested, that's fine too. I'm moving on.

See, you did learn something. lol

Jimmy · Nov 14, 2024

@IamYourYahaweh
…and besides infinite space has to be made up of something and I don’t think parallel immaterial existences exist.

IamYourYahaweh · Nov 14, 2024

Jimmy said:
My god is infinite material space which I think is even more powerful and awe inspiring than an immaterial god.

Who wants to be that powerful? Or knowing, I think it would lead to a lame existence

IamYourYahaweh · Nov 14, 2024

Jimmy said:
See, you did learn something. lol

Thank you for saying it. If it came from me he would have no chance. He will forever be against you now because of this remark. Nothing to fear though

blü 2 · Nov 14, 2024

IamYourYahaweh said:
If that's what you're about then go do it, don't tell me how to live my life

I'm informing you of something it appears you failed to notice. towit, as I said, this is a debate forum.

If you don't find that information helpful, perhaps you're in the wrong place.

IamYourYahaweh · Nov 14, 2024

blü 2 said:
I'm informing you of something it appears you failed to notice. towit, as I said, this is a debate forum.

If you don't find that information helpful, perhaps you're in the wrong place.

Assuming I failed to notice something? How did you get the power to know what somebody noticed or not? Must be nice!

Okay I will go see to it that every message in the debate forum is related to debating, otherwise I will debate them that they are in the wrong place which actually means any message could be debated so they are all in the right place.

Sorry

blü 2 · Nov 14, 2024

IamYourYahaweh said:
Assuming I failed to notice something? How did you get the power to know what somebody noticed or not? Must be nice!

Okay I will go see to it that every message in the debate forum is related to debating, otherwise I will debate them that they are in the wrong place which actually means any message could be debated so they are all in the right place.

Sorry

Apology accepted.

Nakosis · Nov 14, 2024

IamYourYahaweh said:
Speak for yourself or risk being terribly wrong. "To understand that's what you got to do".

I have understood people's faith from a point of logic many times.

That's all anyone does is speak for themselves.
Trying to speak for someone else and you're always going to risk being wrong.
Sure, you've "understood" but you are only speaking for yourself.
Everyone understands the "logic" of their own thinking.

TransmutingSoul · Nov 15, 2024

IamYourYahaweh said:
I'll let God tell me, not a book that has been the center of controversy and hate and war and disagrees with many many other books all claiming to be the word of God or God's.

God is not talking to you. If you think God is, you need help.

Regards Tony

1213 · Nov 15, 2024

It Aint Necessarily So said:
....You believe a priori that the Bible is the flawless word of a tri-omni deity, and so that's what you see. I see all kinds of internal contradiction, scientific and historical error which believers will call anything but that, and intellectual and moral errors attributed to what is called a tri-omni god.
...

I think Bible has no real errors, because after many years, no atheists has managed to show a real error in it, that doesn't depend on their biased interpretation.

IamYourYahaweh · Nov 15, 2024

TransmutingSoul said:
God is not talking to you. If you think God is, you need help.

Regards Tony

Not once did I say god was talking to me. Don't assume or twist the words of others and don't speak for what god does as if you have the slightest clue.

So all the prophets and authors of the Bible got a direct line from god and despite all the contradictions written down we should believe them and accept it as fact despite never witnessing any of it or them. Yet if anybody claims to come in contact with god nowadays they need help huh.

Wild how you think you can speak for god

IamYourYahaweh · Nov 15, 2024

Nakosis said:
That's all anyone does is speak for themselves.
Trying to speak for someone else and you're always going to risk being wrong.
Sure, you've "understood" but you are only speaking for yourself.
Everyone understands the "logic" of their own thinking.

You said "anyone, you're always, everyone" all 3 examples you are guilty of speaking for everybody once again. Wrong all 3 times too, get better

TransmutingSoul · Nov 15, 2024

IamYourYahaweh said:
I'll let God tell me, not a book that has been the center of controversy and hate and war and disagrees with many many other books all claiming to be the word of God or God's.

IamYourYahaweh said:
Not once did I say god was talking to me. Don't assume or twist the words of others and don't speak for what god does as if you have the slightest clue.

How does God tell you, are you claiming direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit? The Word of God is given only to the Messengers.

Maybe you meant I will let God show me, as a teacher you should know the difference between being told and shown!

Regards Tony

Nakosis · Nov 15, 2024

IamYourYahaweh said:
You said "anyone, you're always, everyone" all 3 examples you are guilty of speaking for everybody once again. Wrong all 3 times too, get better

Funny, I just said the same thing you did, only pointing out how obvious it was.
Good job of reflecting.

IamYourYahaweh · Nov 15, 2024

TransmutingSoul said:
How does God tell you, are you claiming direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit? The Word of God is given only to the Messengers.

Maybe you meant I will let God show me, as a teacher you should know the difference between being told and shown!

Regards Tony

Tell is up to interpretation. All I ask is to not misquote me or take words out of context or assume anything about me. The word of God is given to the messengers you say? Well how do we go about indicating the correct messengers today when most people claim to be just that.

IamYourYahaweh · Nov 15, 2024

Nakosis said:
Funny, I just said the same thing you did, only pointing out how obvious it was.
Good job of reflecting.

This has gotten school yard level now man, sad, is there any point you intended on making this entire time? If so please remind of it and better yet why

TransmutingSoul · Nov 15, 2024

IamYourYahaweh said:
Tell is up to interpretation. All I ask is to not misquote me or take words out of context or assume anything about me. The word of God is given to the messengers you say? Well how do we go about indicating the correct messengers today when most people claim to be just that.

I did not miss quote you the quote is in post #114 and comes from post 62.