She holds an odd mix of libertarian & liberal views.I don't believe that for a second.
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She holds an odd mix of libertarian & liberal views.I don't believe that for a second.
Actually, the data seems to suggest that, in the US at least, those not following those bronze age rules of morality are primarily in the Bible Belt. Hard to figure, really.And yet all of the data appears to refute that.
What do you make that claim based upon? Because people are not following your bronze age rules of morality?
I wish you would pause for just a second to reflect on something rather important:Yeah, we saw your wonderful world during the second world war without Christianity. Take a look at all the Christian crosses at the graveyard at Normandy Beach to see who stopped that evil. Then mosey over to Planned Parenthood and review their records on the millions of innocent babies they butchered. Which brings me to a question for you: How large a pile of bloody, aborted babies piled high on your front yard would it take before your sensibilities are offended? 100? 500? 10,000? Answer the question?
At least my dreams don't feature all those oiled up semi naked Greeks.In your dreams.
That's most of the world in regards to Western culture in general. And, what matters is now. Because much of the world has also been influenced by the Ancient Greeks and Romans, Egypt, Mongolians, Africa, and pretty much every culture that hasn't been isolated has influenced and effected to others.
But, we can look at when society has been more Christian. It wasn't as good as what we have today.
No, but culture exchanges have influences, even if minimal. Or, think of how to this day we are still influenced in various areas by the Ancient Egyptians.Ancient Greece basically laid the foundations of our society, with Rome developing a sort of frame for us.But Egypt, Mongolia, and Africa, is not Christian. There are Christians there, just like with China, but they will never be a Christian nation. So, there you go. You could go there. Enjoy living under a non-christian authority.
Good-Ole-Rebel
Google "The Adoption of the Common Law by the American Colonies" by R.C. Dale.
And, from (The Creation of the American Republic" by Gordon Wood, Norton, 1993) "The general principles of politics that the colonists sought to discover and apply were not merely abstractions that had to be created anew out of nature and reason. They were in fact already embodied in the historic English constitution...." (p. 10)
From (The Creation of the American Republic) "...the English, it seemed, had concretely achieved what political philosophers from antiquity on had only dreamed of. In the minds of the English colonists, indeed of the enlightened everywhere in the eighteenth century, the English constitution--'this beautiful system,' as Montewquieu called it--seemed to possess no national or cultural limitations. It had 'its foundatin in nature,' said Samuel Adams; its principles were from God and were universal, capable of application by all peoples who had the ability to sustain them." (p. 11)
As I said, our laws are built on English laws which were built on the Bible and Christianity. England, as Europe, was Christian.
Good-Ole-Rebel
No, but culture exchanges have influences, even if minimal. Or, think of how to this day we are still influenced in various areas by the Ancient Egyptians.Ancient Greece basically laid the foundations of our society, with Rome developing a sort of frame for us.
So again, which specific laws in the US are only found in Christianity and aren't specific features in human societies? For instance, there is "Though shall not steal or murder," but that is a necessary one for maintaining peace amongst citizens.
In fact, the US has laws that are flagrantly non-christian, like separation of Church and State.
How large a pile of bloody, aborted babies piled high on your front yard would it take before your sensibilities are offended?
We also know what your 'wonderful world' will look like at the end times in the Book of Revelation
This is another subject you are a full quart low on knowledge about, because you haven't done your homework.
Slavery in the Bible was usually one of three things:
1. Voluntary servitude as a way of existence.
2. Punishment by God on sinful men and nations for their crimes against God and humanity.
3. A sin - enslaving one's fellow man - that wasn't approved by God.
You still don't have a clue.
Islam and Christianity are in no way the same.
No, the U.S. is built on Christianity. Read the 'Mayflower Compact'. That is it's origin
It was that you do live in a country impacted by Christianity, and enjoy the benefits of it
Enjoy living under a non-christian authority.
So again, which specific laws in the US are only found in Christianity and aren't specific features in human societies?
Actually, the data seems to suggest that, in the US at least, those not following those bronze age rules of morality are primarily in the Bible Belt. Hard to figure, really.
I don't see any gifts from Christianity - just the attempt to steal credit for the great ideas of humanism and the Enlightenment, which the church has fought tooth and nail. They claim credit for the moral foundation of the West, but what is their contribution to your moral code or mine? I am unaware, for example, of even a single moral precept original to Jesus that is part of my life or worth incorporating into my life. I don't love enemies, I won't offer an aggressor my other cheek, and I consider meekness a curse, not a blessing.
It looks to me like San Francisco is carrying a cross.Don't forget to include San Francisco, California, and all other liberal cities and states and individuals who approve of Bronze Age Sodom and Gomorrah "morality".
If it weren't for Jesus / Creator, you wouldn't even be breathing.
And what gifts does he give that you can't get anywhere else? Salvation. Righteousness. Eternal life. Blessings in heaven.
Of course, you won't believe any of that until it's Judgment Day. Then you will have a whole new appreciation for what you've so far kicked to the curb.
Couldn't address anything I said, huh? Looks like you know it's true, but support the lying, perverted, adulterer anyway. Funny thing, that. Speaks volumes.LOL. You guys had your hopes up trying to get rid of Trump, didn't you? You must have wet-nursed and fantasized about that pipe dream for years. First, it was the 2016 election, when you woke up the next morning bawling your eyes out like two year olds. Your resident gas bags Hillary Clinton and Bernie the Socialist folded like cheap pup tents. Next was "Russia, Russia, Russia," and the Mueller Investigation, and that collusion fantasy went down the commode quicker than an aborted Planned Parenthood fetus. Along with that went your next abortion, the Democrat's Emolument Lawsuit, which the Court of Appeals also sent to the trash heap. And all along the way, your Loony-Tune liberals friends kept running more of their mangy dogs around the arena for an Impeachment ribbon - treason, bribery, and whatever else the nut bags could dream up. Nope, none of that passed muster either. And finally, the Grand Finale - the specialite de la maison - abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. How'd that work out for you, SK? More "morning after" despair and anguish for you. LOL.
But you want to know something? Even with all Trump's warts, he was STILL a much better President than all your other pet slugs combined. It was hilarious watching the pained faces of the Democrats - along with Madame Pelosi chewing her cud - sitting on their hands when one awesome achievement after another by Trump was noted in his SOTU speech.
So take all your whines and insults about Trump and run them around the arena once more, and see if anyone in their right mind cares.
Trump hasn't repented though. He said so himself. Didn't you watch the video?Like I said, if people don't repent they will perish (Luke 13:3). Trump has repented, the Sodomite Buttigieg hasn't.
Do you really think you'll change anything? Indoctrination runs deep in their minds.I have no reason to believe that, and neither do you, but that's where we part ways. You don't need a reason to believe things. You are willing to believe whatever you hope is true.
Once again, I have no reason to believe any of that, and once again, neither do you.
And I consider my moral code superior to the Christian one. You call yourself righteous, but I don't. You support an ideology that has made you a bigot. There is nothing righteous in maligning every member of a demographic that is largely hard-working, law-abiding, decent people trying to support their families and communities. This applies to both gays and atheist, two groups your church targets for scapegoating.
Your religion teaches you to hate them and call it love, to persecute them and call it helping. I don't do that. Why? Because being a bigot is not righteous. It's the opposite.
You were just seen defending biblical slavery. I don't do that, either. But you do. Slavery is immoral, but your god never god the memo.
How about you naming a single moral principle original to the words attributed to Jesus that the rest of the world agrees is a keeper. This is supposedly a god with perfect understanding, yet the ethics of secular humanism runs circles around that ancient ideology. You'd be doing more with slaves than merely defending slavery if an alternative method to consulting scripture didn't exist to tell your church that slavery is not righteous.
This was written by a man named Richard Banford
"Do you know his name? Sure you do. He talks to you every day. You could not live a normal life without him. You believe in him, whether you like it or not. Unless you abandon him completely, you cannot deny he exists.
"My god is a more personal god than yours can ever be, for if you have enough sense to understand these words, my god lives within you. He lives within us all, to some degree. A heartbreaking few cannot understand him, but this is not their fault. The real tragedy is the multitudes who ignore much of his counsel, particularly when he questions your god too deeply.
"My god has been around longer than your god. He was here before the many other gods that preceded your god. Though you will likely scoff at the notion, my god was the father of your god, as he was to all gods. But that was long ago when he was young and not yet sure of himself. Though many of your god's followers try to hold him down, my god grows stronger and more independent each day.
"When your god expelled us from paradise for eating an apple, my god taught us to grow our own fruit.
"When your god forbade knowledge, demanding we live in ignorance, my god created books.
"When your god smote cities like a tantrum-prone child, my god helped to rebuild them.
"When your god insisted the world was flat, my god showed his followers it was round, to their peril at the hands of your god's followers.
"While your god watched in silence as children sickened and died, my god created medicines to make them well.
"When your god winked and nodded at slavery, my god argued passionately against it.
"While your god represses half the human race, my god considers woman to be the equal of man.
"When your god only helps those who help themselves, my god rolls up his sleeves and actually does help until your god decides to join in, and then steals all the credit.
"When your god inspired great buildings and great art, my god made them possible.
"While your god says we are all born sinners, tainted before we even draw breath, my god says we are all born innocent; a clean slate with limitless potential.
"While your god offers dubious allusions of an afterlife, my god provides for us here in this life.
"While your god makes amazing promises, but offers not a shred of proof, my god performs amazing deeds, and the proof is there to be seen by all.
"While your god demands blind faith and obsequious obedience, my god encourages questions, even about himself.
"When your god says "Thou shalt not," my god says "You can do anything."
"My god is reason. He does more in a day than your god will ever do."