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As of this moment, who would you vote for in the Democratic nomination?
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dust1n
Zindīq
Votes can be changed at any time to reflect any indecision.
Bernie.
Wow, that's who I'd vote for. Just surprised He's the only that got any votes so far. Well four, big deal but the people I vote for never ever get any kind of lead.
Copernicus
Industrial Strength Linguist
Too many Americans seem to think that personality is more important than policy, and very few seem to take a look at who would stand the best chance of implementing the policies they favor. In this case, I vastly prefer Sanders' personality and policy positions over Clinton's, but I still have a positive opinion of her. I think that she would make a better president than Sanders simply because she has far more experience with the executive branch and far more ability to assemble a government of people with experience and competence. That matters to me, even though I align more with Sanders and consider him a better campaigner than Clinton.
As for who I intend to vote for in my caucus and primary, it is really too hard to tell. I might prefer Clinton in the caucus, because that is what actually counts in my state. The primary is just a beauty contest that somewhat influences perceptions of candidate viability. There, I might vote for Sanders. But many things can change in the months between now and then.
As for who I intend to vote for in my caucus and primary, it is really too hard to tell. I might prefer Clinton in the caucus, because that is what actually counts in my state. The primary is just a beauty contest that somewhat influences perceptions of candidate viability. There, I might vote for Sanders. But many things can change in the months between now and then.
This.
I don't much care for Hillary Clinton as a person. But I respect her abilities and I expect that she will keep her campaign promises better than Bernie could hope to.
I'll feel better if she ever says what those promises might be, of course.
Tom
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I am a Republican, am I allowed to vote? I voted Trump in the Republican "who" thread. Not sure if I am allowed to vote in the Democratic "who" thread, but since this isn't a DIR, I will.
I was going to vote Sanders as the others are all establishment politicians, esp. Gore (he's running but not on this list), Biden, and I would never vote for that witch Hillary even though, like Trump, I gave her money back when she first ran against Obama the first time.
But even though Sanders is anti-establishment candidate, I thought "but he's still a politician ..."
So I decided to vote Other, a write in for Tom Cruise the Hollywood actor and Scientologist. He is a Democrat.
I was going to vote Sanders as the others are all establishment politicians, esp. Gore (he's running but not on this list), Biden, and I would never vote for that witch Hillary even though, like Trump, I gave her money back when she first ran against Obama the first time.
But even though Sanders is anti-establishment candidate, I thought "but he's still a politician ..."
So I decided to vote Other, a write in for Tom Cruise the Hollywood actor and Scientologist. He is a Democrat.
Copernicus
Industrial Strength Linguist
I see no reason why you shouldn't be allowed to vote here. If you lived in Washington state, you could certainly cross over to vote in the caucuses or primaries. Al Gore is definitely not running, although the rumor started up again. He swatted it down and would have no chance, in any case. Every single one of the people you mentioned, except Tom Cruise, is a politician. If you run for a public office, that makes you a politician. They can be experienced or inexperienced, but they all pander to their perceived constituents and all lie when they feel it necessary. If they didn't do those things, people would consider them too naive to be trusted to hold public office.
Donald Trump is a politician who has run for office before. This is just his time to shine, given the current state of the Republican Party. His shenanigans play well with about a quarter of the Republican base. It is way too early in the process for the really serious candidates to emerge, so he is this election cycle's version of Michelle Bachman or Herman Cain--a crowd pleaser who won't make it into the real contest.
Sanders for sure, and I am registering Democrat so that I may vote for him specifically. Whether or not he can keep 100% of his campaign promises is of no consequence to me. If he can keep even 5% of them, he has my vote.
Bernie.
In areas where he & I greatly disagree, I see him as little threat.
In areas where we do agree (eg, non-aggression), he wields great power.
In areas where he & I greatly disagree, I see him as little threat.
In areas where we do agree (eg, non-aggression), he wields great power.
dust1n
Zindīq
Yeah, I wanted to make both polls available for everyone.
Here's the thing.
I would definitely vote for a Sandersesque improvement to this country. I am absolutely certain that his ideas would be better for the 70% of us who are lower on the economic ladder.
But to do that he must both win the general election and then keep his campaign promises. I don't think he can do either one.
I think Trump could beat him in the election. Bernie is too far to the left for the majority of voters. He is the candidate the GOP would love to run against.
And I think he would be even less able to keep his promises than Obama. From Congress to the billionaires to the Washington insiders, he'd be opposed by everyone who matters *after the election *. What would be even worse is that those powerful people would run over him like a 18wheeler over a turtle, and do whatever they want, then blame him for the outcome.
The President is not as powerful as people think. You could fit more real power onto the Donald's personal jet, along with their entourage.
Tom
