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Ashoka

श्री कृष्णा शरणं मम
Animals do have instinctive behaviors but they do not evolve into humans. Humans have yet to prove they even ever saw an ape transform. This should mark a massive change in history if it ever came into being-but it did not. We did not evolve from animals. Allah created us and he created all animals.

I think you should look more into the Quran and its sciences :) may do you some good

Tell me you don't understand human evolution, without telling me you don't understand human evolution.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
You can believe the moon is made of soft cheese if it cheers you up, but scientific facts are not influenced by wishful thinking.



Again science does not prove things, it gathers and tests evidence. The overwhelming evidence to support this makes it an established scientific fact, whether you accept it or not.



Please demonstrate one shred of objective evidence for any deity?



I have no idea what you mean by "on the same level as", but the taxonomy of humans is that they are part of the family of great apes. You can easily fact check this yourself, though I suspect you're not looking for facts here, especially if they see to dispute any part of your religious beliefs. You might want to consider what being that closed minded means, or you might not of course.

you can dispute any part of religious beliefs, but I have proof from my Creator. Ever create a human being? Ever say how we are created? Did an ape ever tell you how you were created? Well over 1400 years ago, in the Quran, it tells exactly how we are made. No ape or animal can ever come up with that type of knowledge. Science does prove things and they test evidences and they have told us that no way we have come from apes. Now there are missing links and wrongness being proven in Darwin's theory. I am not here to debate on this anymore. Seems you will never understand the humbleness one has for their Creator for the appreciation that our Creator has made and given us. According to Islam, it is indeed for those who understand and believe and you right now, are not one of them.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
Tell me you don't understand human evolution, without telling me you don't understand human evolution.


Tell me you don't know how to think without tellin me. Maybe you can ask an ape. I understand it, but doesn't mean it is truth.
 

ppp

Well-Known Member
Humans have yet to prove they even ever saw an ape transform.
  1. Humans have yet to prove that they even ever saw an angel dictate a story to a human in a cave.
  2. Evolution does not claim "an ape" transformed. This isn't Might Morphin' Power Rangers.
  3. There is tangible, testable and demonstrable support for evolution through at least three separate lines of evidence.
Yes. We did evolve from earlier hominid, and we are one of the 5 Great Ape species on the planet.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
  1. Humans have yet to prove that they even ever saw an angel dictate a story to a human in a cave.
  2. Evolution does not claim "an ape" transformed. This isn't Might Morphin' Power Rangers.
  3. There is tangible, testable and demonstrable support for evolution through at least three separate lines of evidence.
Yes. We did evolve from earlier hominid, and we are one of the 5 Great Ape species on the planet.


Do you speak ape?


lol humans don't have to prove they saw an angel. :)
if someone told me we came from apes, of course one must want to understand why apes are yet not transforming and why are there still apes!
It has become clear to many rational people that the theory of the atheist Darwin has been consigned to the trash can of history, because it was refuted by the disbelieving scientists of the West before Muslim scientists, as it is contrary to common sense and the teachings of various religions.

Islam and all divinely revealed religions believe in the existence of Allah, the Creator, Originator, Controller and Fashioner Who has made all things well. He originally created man from an extract of clay, then He created him from a sperm drop lodged in a safe lodging (the womb), and man remains human in his form, attributes and reason; he does not evolve or change. “And also in your own selves [there are signs]. Will you not then see?” [adh-Dhaariyaat 51:21].
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
Ape isn't a species. If you are going to mock successfully then you should do something about your ignorance.

Then your angel might as well be an idol. Or a leprechaun. No need to read any further.


naa I know the truth :p
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Do you speak ape?


What a particularly stupid question, ape is a taxonomy, not a language.

lol humans don't have to prove they saw an angel. :)

If someone makes a claim, any claim, it carries an epistemological burden of proof.

if someone told me we came from apes, of course one must want to understand why apes are yet not transforming and why are there still apes!

Australians and Americans came from Europeans, are there still Europeans? You are simply demonstrating you haven't the most basic understanding of species evolution.


It has become clear to many rational people that the theory of the atheist Darwin has been consigned to the trash can of history, because it was refuted by the disbelieving scientists of the West before Muslim scientists, as it is contrary to common sense and the teachings of various religions.

Nothing in that diatribe is true, closed minded superstitious indoctrination can deny scientific facts, but it's not a compelling position to anyone with a basic understanding of the overwhelming evidence that supports species evolution. Ironically decrying evolution is utterly pointless anyway, as even in the astronomically unlikely event evolution were reversed or even substantively amended tomorrow, it would not remotely evidence any creation myths.

Islam and all divinely revealed religions believe in the existence of Allah, the Creator, Originator, Controller and Fashioner Who has made all things well.

You can believe the moon is illuminated from inside by a large bulb if it makes you happy, but without a shred of objective evidence I remain dubious.

He originally created man from an extract of clay, then He created him from a sperm drop lodged in a safe lodging (the womb), and man remains human in his form, attributes and reason; he does not evolve or change.

That's your belief, but unevidenced superstition involving magic and clay, don't match the objective evidence from multiple fields of science. The fossil record alone falsifies that nonsense.

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MyM

Well-Known Member
No reason to believe that you know, or are capable of knowing the things you claim.

Well, my Creator does :)

Just try and read the Quran with an open mind instead of an Atheistic one :)
It might surprise you . The world is full of beautiful gifts that were made for us to ponder over. The beauty of the skies, the oceans, the mountains, the weather, the human body and much more. It was not accidental. No human, no ape could ever have come up with the complexities that are involved. Science can prove the Quran is legit and some scientists have already. But there are people out there that just can't open their hearts and minds to see it.
 

ppp

Well-Known Member
Well, my Creator does :)
See post 453

Just try and read the Quran with an open mind instead of an Atheistic one :)
It might surprise you .

Why do believer always assume that you haven't read their pet books? It's like y'all cannot conceive that anyone can read you stuff and not agree with you. Pretty full of yourselves.

The world is full of beautiful gifts that were made for us to ponder over.
See post 453
No human, no ape could ever have come up with the complexities that are involved.
See post 453
Science can prove the Quran is legit and some scientists have already.
Well, that is obviously false. But I agree that science is a far superior methodology for gaining knowledge of the universe in which we live than reading an ancient book.

But there are people out there that just can't open their hearts and minds to see it.
If you cannot demonstrate your claim to people who believe that you are wrong, then that is a failure of your methodology. Scientists do it all the time.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
Mohamed certainly never proved he saw Gabriel. He simply claimed he did - 6,236 times.
It has certainly changed the course of history.

Who would have thought that a tiny desert community, would have ended up being the basis for a substantial civilisation?

Naturally, those who oppose G-d will claim that belief was/is forced on people with violence.

G-d knows all about the violence of mankind.
Those who start aggression without good reason, cannot ultimately succeed except temporarily. That is not true success.

True success, is in gaining G-d's forgiveness and standing up for truth and justice for all.
 
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