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Ask An Irreligious Person

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
Here's a post for seekers to explore an option they may not have considered: non-religion.

Please ask any questions you might have about people without religious beliefs and I'll do my best to answer them. Others are welcome to join in, too.
 

Bob Dixon

>implying
Do you think that religion (nothing in particular, just in general) is a natural thing for humans? Are humans predisposed to some sort of [primitive,] innate religion?

In other words, would you say you have converted or reverted to non-religiosity?
 

9Westy9

Sceptic, Libertarian, Egalitarian
Premium Member
Do you think that religion (nothing in particular, just in general) is a natural thing for humans? Are humans predisposed to some sort of [primitive,] innate religion?

In other words, would you say you have converted or reverted to non-religiosity?

I'd say it's a side effect of being social creatures. A certain experiment from the 1950's might interest you. The Illusion of Asymmetric Insight « You Are Not So Smart

The main part I'll highlight below

Right away, social hierarchies began to emerge in which the boys established leaders and followers and special roles for everyone in between. Norms spontaneously generated. For instance, when one boy hurt his foot but didn’t tell anyone until bedtime, it became expected among the group that Rattlers didn’t complain. From then on members waited until the day’s work was finished to reveal injuries. When a boy cried, the others ignored him until he got over it. Regulations and rituals sprouted just as quickly. For instance, the high-status members, the natural leaders, in both groups came up with guidelines for saying grace during meals and correct rotations for the ritual.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
Do you think that religion (nothing in particular, just in general) is a natural thing for humans? Are humans predisposed to some sort of [primitive,] innate religion?

In other words, would you say you have converted or reverted to non-religiosity?

I think it's a difficult question that people can only speculate on, really. Epistemically, we have every reason to believe that all humans start out in neutral non-religious positions -- assuming that we're using the word "religious" to refer to specific beliefs about the universe. There does seem to be a certain amount of awe and wonder with the universe and the things around us inherent in most people; but I hesitate to call these feelings properly "religious."

I can speculate that this human inquisitiveness and proneness to be struck in awe by the world around us could give rise to religious thought (and indeed, if I had to guess where religions came from these human traits seem the most likely culprit); but I don't think it necessarily gives rise to religious thought.

This is further compounded by the fact that children are mind-sponges that absorb a great deal of what they learn from their elders; and for good reason: it would be a little difficult for the species to survive if children didn't obey the worldly knowledge and experience of their elders even without understanding it, at least during their youth.

The universe is also wonderfully complex: it's simple, even elegant, but complex enough so as to require a lot of work and counterintuitive thought to begin to understand.

Add these things up -- humans' awe at the universe, humans' instinct to believe what they're told, and the universe's insistence on being fairly mysterious -- and it seems to me probable that these are the ingredients from which religious thought sprang.

In short, it seems to me that at some point religion became popular (though it could have been otherwise), and so children began being instructed in religious thought. Before they receive said instruction, they seem to be religiously neutral.

Sorry for all the blather to get there, but my answer to your question is that I feel as though I've reverted to non-religion. It seems to me that we all start out that way until religion is taught to us.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
I just need to know if your Irreligion ever has Irbake sales and Irbingo night *crosses fingers*
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't understand how anyone can be non-religious. The word "religious" and "religion" can mean too many things, and I think the only types of people who might genuinely fail to meet all of the possible definitions would be the human vegetables. No offense intended, I just really don't understand. >_<
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
I don't understand how anyone can be non-religious. The word "religious" and "religion" can mean too many things, and I think the only types of people who might genuinely fail to meet all of the possible definitions would be the human vegetables. No offense intended, I just really don't understand. >_<

I'm going off of this definition from Merriam-Webster:

Definition of RELIGION
1
a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year ofreligion>b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural(2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance

2
: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices

3
archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness

4
: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith


I'm not saying that this is the *only* definition, but (1), (2), and (4) are generally what are referred to being absent when people describe themselves as "irreligious." People can lack those things without being vegetables.​



 

Bob Dixon

>implying
:eek:

Wow, I think my ego's full. Why do I feel like taking a warm bath now?!

Your ego is a bit too full.
Take the bath, the excess ego will dissolve in the warm water. Bubbles will help.
Make sure to drain the ego-water and take another bath. Sitting in hypertonic ego-solution can't be good for anyone.

Cheers,
Msgr. Bob Dixon, MD, PhD, AMDG
 

Splarnst

Active Member
I think the only types of people who might genuinely fail to meet all of the possible definitions would be the human vegetables
If so, then the word "religious" is meaningless and therefore useless since it fails to distinguish between anyone and anyone else.
 

Bob Dixon

>implying
If so, then the word "religious" is meaningless and therefore useless since it fails to distinguish between anyone and anyone else.

If so, then the word "human" is meaningless and therefore useless since it fails to distinguish between anyone and anyone else.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
If so, then the word "human" is meaningless and therefore useless since it fails to distinguish between anyone and anyone else.

Human is a word that distinguishes our species from others. Aside from this already being true on Earth, and even if we narrow our focus to sentient/sapient beings, it's entirely possible as far as we know that there are non-human beings with those characteristics.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
Your ego is a bit too full.
Take the bath, the excess ego will dissolve in the warm water. Bubbles will help.
Make sure to drain the ego-water and take another bath. Sitting in hypertonic ego-solution can't be good for anyone.

Cheers,
Msgr. Bob Dixon, MD, PhD, AMDG

I think you missed the blatant flirting -- and perhaps the playful/non-serious nature of this thread; but that's okay ;)

Out of curiosity, what is/are the AMDG credential(s)?
 

Onkara

Well-Known Member
Because I was put here for your pleasure and amusement, and I think you can use your imagination ;)

I am using my imagination and I am pretty shocked at what you can do... :flirt: :p

I do have a question, would your irreligious morals ever let you have a perm like this:

tight-perm.jpg
 
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