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Ask Angellous about his beliefs (Christianity)

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bobhikes

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What is your take on the devil?
My version is different from my christian upbringing.

Why is it important that Jesus not sin for us to achieve heaven?
My version has us achieving heaven because he sinned not because he was without sin.
 
I like the question "What are your heretical beliefs?" on page 1. Did you ever decide if you could honestly answer it?

On page 2 you replied to Jayhawker Soule: "By faith I trust that the apostles truthfully fabricated and embellished the text, but I don't know how much is embellishment, and indeed I don't know of a flawless model by which we can extract the literal, historical truth out of the text."

What do you mean by "truthfully fabricated and embellished..."? How is this different from untruthfully fabricating and embellishing?
 

Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
Compare Paul's understanding of the church as "the body of Christ" in 1 Corinthians 12 with the Pastor's understanding of the church as "the household of God" (1 Timothy 3:15). Write an essay that explores the different emphases of these metaphors and their practical implications, with particular reference to Paul's overall advice in 1 Corinthians and the Pastor's in 1 Timothy. Conclude your essay with a suggestion about which metaphor for a worshipping community you prefer, and why.

That's hilarious. :D

Angellous, I will be sending you my homework requirements shortly.
 
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angellous_evangellous

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I haven't read the entire thread, so I'm sorry if this question has already been asked and answered - what is your perspective on Postmodern thought and its relation to Christianity?

I haven't read all of the post-modernists, but I have read some.

I have found that Christian theologians are at least two generations behind advancements in philosophy, so I'm reserving my right to think. It's difficult for me to answer for myself because I'm trying so hard to be objective in my research.

For myself, I think that Christianity should be able to express itself in a language that is relevant to popular philosophy. We have seen great success with Bultmann's existentialism and A. A. Altizer's Christian atheism (based on Nietzsche). There are some post-modern Christian theologians but I don't know who they are.
 
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angellous_evangellous

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I like the question "What are your heretical beliefs?" on page 1. Did you ever decide if you could honestly answer it?

On page 2 you replied to Jayhawker Soule: "By faith I trust that the apostles truthfully fabricated and embellished the text, but I don't know how much is embellishment, and indeed I don't know of a flawless model by which we can extract the literal, historical truth out of the text."

What do you mean by "truthfully fabricated and embellished..."? How is this different from untruthfully fabricating and embellishing?

They embellished and fabricated details which frame the teachings of Jesus or placed Jesus in a different situation than it actually happened or captured the truth of what was going on and recorded it as such.
 
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angellous_evangellous

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What is your take on the devil?
My version is different from my christian upbringing.

Why is it important that Jesus not sin for us to achieve heaven?
My version has us achieving heaven because he sinned not because he was without sin.

I don't give the devil any thought.

In my theology it's more important that Jesus died and rose again than he be sinless. But I do believe that he did not sin.
 
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angellous_evangellous

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My apologies for taking so long to answer the latest questions. They were insightful and required some thought.
 
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angellous_evangellous

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How does Angellous feel about homosexuality?

I think that homosexuality is perfectly natural and should be celebrated as a normative human experience, with homosexual people enjoying all the rights and freedoms as everyone else.

I also think that Christians should be a part of this, welcoming and affirming people of all sexualities.

As a Christian minister and thinker, my only difficulty is the teaching of the body of Christ as symbolized by Christ (male) and the church (female). I know that Paul chose this framework out of choices that would include a wide variety of sexualities, and the symbol is powerful and important in Christianity. I haven't been able to reconcile this problem in my own mind, which is why I would hesitate to marry homosexuals myself --- but I hate marrying anyone anyway, so I hesitate for everyone.

However, I don't let my personal theological struggles interfere with my affirmation and encouragement to GLBT folks to seek the Lord and enjoy his blessings.
 

Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
You mean Luke?

Maybe Paul lied to Luke?

That reminds me, I often hear critics of Paul accuse him of lying. But the discrepancies in his writings don't seem big. So he mashed some scripture together in ambiguous ways. What motivation would he have had for lying?
 
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angellous_evangellous

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Maybe Paul lied to Luke?

That reminds me, I often hear critics of Paul accuse him of lying. But the discrepancies in his writings don't seem big. So he mashed some scripture together in ambiguous ways. What motivation would he have had for lying?

I don't think that Paul ever met Luke. Acts was written as an affirmation of Paul, written at least a decade after his death. By then, Paul was a hero of the church and idealized in Acts.

I don't think that Paul willfully lied in his letters. But his motivation would be attracting people or keeping them in the church - not for personal gain, but because he really believed in what he was doing.
 

Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
I don't think that Paul ever met Luke. Acts was written as an affirmation of Paul, written at least a decade after his death. By then, Paul was a hero of the church and idealized in Acts.

I don't think that Paul willfully lied in his letters. But his motivation would be attracting people or keeping them in the church - not for personal gain, but because he really believed in what he was doing.

Ah. Didn't know he was revered so early on. And in reading his letters, I feel his enthusiasm in his belief. I'm not a huge fan of his, but I don't see lying as much as discrepancies that have reasonable explanations.
 
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angellous_evangellous

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Ah. Didn't know he was revered so early on. And in reading his letters, I feel his enthusiasm in his belief. I'm not a huge fan of his, but I don't see lying as much as discrepancies that have reasonable explanations.

If you want the the best explanation of this, see Watson's "Paul and the Hermeneutics of Faith."

Watson sets out the methods to Paul's madness.
 
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