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Ask me about the Third Reich, National Socialism, Hitler & the Holocaust

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Well, I'll defy you to find one single statement by an Israeli official that said they have nukes and/or that they have threatened to use them, or implied as such. Let's see if you can provide others here with one single quote.

I say "others" because it's obvious that you are far more interested in calling people names, which is both childish and immoral, imo, so this is a good time for me to use that "ignore" option since I'd rather discuss such matters with people whom are more mature,
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I took you off "ignore" temporarily to see how you'd respond, hoping that maybe you'd be honest enough to apologize, but I see that this is not apparently possible for you to do. I never said that Israel didn't have nukes. What I've said is that they have never officially admitted to having them.

So, you're pathetic lie tells me that "ignore" is the best place to keep you on. Have a nice life.
 
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Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
Quite honestly its beyond stupid to believe that the Aryan Brotherhood is actually Nationalsocialistic.
It's a prison gang. That's it.

Okie dokie.

Nazi made exploding candy bars fpr the Jews, daibolic.
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Now I Know – The Nazis’ Chocolate Bomb

Little Jews walking around with the chocolate, BOOM, blows their hands off.

Next echelon of evil, just diabolic...

Or it was some Nazi tier prank.

Any other Satanic booby traps?
 
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Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
The authorities in the states seemed to have buckled down on those openly affiliated with gangs or organizations.

I used to see guys walking around with Nazi tattoo's and stuff, really don't see those types floating around to often anymore.

Do you think more laws should be imposed on Nazi loyalists?

I think it's treasonous, the order of the day would be to hang them in a previous era, they can be rehabilitated though.

If you can believe in an organization that killed millions of children in cold blood you haven't got a conscience.

I don't think they should be executed depending on the nature of their crimes, depending on whether or not they are criminals or only believe in the Nazi Nationalist party.

Doing Hitler proud since 1964

Don't get cultural tattoo's like runes or even celtic knots or shamrocks, save swastika's - you're affiliated with the gangsters.
Oh yes. I don't believe in thought-crimes, but I do believe that when they pass from thoughts into words in public(not the internet or other private venues, public) you're eligible to be taken away.

There is no excuse to support National Socialism. None at all. Though there should be more work done to ensure people who're just interested in the aesthetics and such of it(such as myself) are not labeled as Nazis.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Well, I'll defy you to find one single statement by an Israeli official that said they have nukes and/or that they have threatened to use them, or implied as such. Let's see if you can provide others here with one single quote.

I say "others" because it's obvious that you are far more interested in calling people names, which is both childish and immoral, imo, so this is a good time for me to use that "ignore" option since I'd rather discuss such matters with people whom are more mature,
Israel has a policy to neither confirm or deny that they have nuclear weapons, but it should be painfully clear they have them. They worked with South Africa on their program to do so.

IF Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons(I personally firmly believe they very much do), then they're in a similar situation as Japan. Namely, a state that can have a working, deploy-able nuclear weapon in under 30 days. That's not hyperbole. Japan(and Israel, and a handful of other states like Germany, Turkey & so on) have the resources & know-how to construct a functioning nuclear arsenal in thirty days or less.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Israel has a policy to neither confirm or deny that they have nuclear weapons, but it should be painfully clear they have them. They worked with South Africa on their program to do so.

IF Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons(I personally firmly believe they very much do), then they're in a similar situation as Japan. Namely, a state that can have a working, deploy-able nuclear weapon in under 30 days. That's not hyperbole. Japan(and Israel, and a handful of other states like Germany, Turkey & so on) have the resources & know-how to construct a functioning nuclear arsenal in thirty days or less.
It's been a forgone conclusion for decades now that they have them, and most of the estimates that I've seen puts the numbers probably between 200-300, with some of them being sea-based. My initial response was on a post whereas the person said that Israel has threatened countries with them, which is logically impossible since Israel has never admitted to having them.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
It's been a forgone conclusion for decades now that they have them, and most of the estimates that I've seen puts the numbers probably between 200-300, with some of them being sea-based. My initial response was on a post whereas the person said that Israel has threatened countries with them, which is logically impossible since Israel has never admitted to having them.
Oh, my bad. Sorry. That's what I get for only skimming some posts.

Though, one could make the argument that since Israel's nuclear arsenal is one of the biggest open secrets on the planet that it doesn't need to directly threaten anyone.
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Oh, my bad. Sorry. That's what I get for only skimming some posts.

Though, one could make the argument that sense Israel's nuclear arsenal is one of the biggest open secrets on the planet that it doesn't need to directly threaten anyone.
No argument with that.
 

Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
I forgot about the suicide parties. Can you elaborate Nietzsche?

Video is NSFW

Thanks.

Got around to watching Der Untergang, that was an amazing film, thank you, Nietzsche.

I have some critiques, Bruno Ganz was amazing but 20 years to old and over acting a bit at the dinner table. I don't think Hitler would have gave a speech presentation at the dinner table. Other than that he was just a little to old.

Ulric Matthes was a cunningly brilliant Geobbels, I seen his limp and that sold the role for me. That little gimp walk was a professional touch, Geobbels had gout or something.

But the role was made for Mr.Hiddelston, could be his Oscar someday.
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Why did they kill the Aryan children? I know they chose total annihilation but they didn't have to take the genetic marvels with them.
 
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Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
I forgot about the suicide parties. Can you elaborate Nietzsche?

Video is NSFW
Well what do you want to know? They only really occurred in the Eastern portions of the Reich. You didn't see them happening west of Brandenburg, and they were extremely common in Ostpreußen, Schlesien & Danzig.

Thanks.

Got around to watching Der Untergang, that was an amazing film, thank you, Nietzsche.

I have some critiques, Bruno Ganz was amazing but 20 years to old and over acting a bit at the dinner table. I don't think Hitler would have gave a speech presentation at the dinner table. Other than that he was just a little to old.
Here's the thing. They were going off the word of a woman who was there, Christa Schroeder. Hitler's Secretary. She couldn't watch that part of the film, because of how close Bruno got to emulating Hitler. As for his age, if you've ever seen any pictures of Hitler during the Bunker Stay...if anything, Bruno looks a little young.

Ulric Matthes was a cunningly brilliant Geobbels, I seen his limp and that sold the role for me. That little gimp walk was a professional touch, Geobbels had gout or something.
He was clubfooted, if memory serves. And yes, he played that rat-faced little **** perfectly.

But the role was made for Mr.Hiddelston, could be his Oscar someday.
Hiddleston wasn't hit remotely enough with the Ugly Stick to be Goebbels. Or anyone other than Reinhard Heydrich, or a Young Goering.


Why did they kill the Aryan children? I know they chose total annihilation but they didn't have to take the genetic marvels with them.
Because they genuinely thought they were being saved from a worse fate; rape & torture at the hands of the Jewish-Banker Clique and their Asiatic Bolshevik lapdogs.
 

Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
Damn, you're right about Hitler, 1945 he looked like he aged 20 years for sure.

Well what do you want to know? They only really occurred in the Eastern portions of the Reich. You didn't see them happening west of Brandenburg, and they were extremely common in Ostpreußen, Schlesien & Danzig.

Go on about any of them if you want, Nietzsche. I've only seen that youtube (excellent channel - "UnknownWW2incolor" - surreal vintage videos).

I think Hiddelston is perfect with a little make-up, Nietzsche.

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Stalin was club footed, I only recall Geobbels mentioning an agonizing pain in his foot, I presume gout.

I imagined that they killed the Aryan children for that reason, saving them from being raped, murdered or exploited as freaks of Nazi science.
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Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Damn, you're right about Hitler, 1945 he looked like he aged 20 years for sure.
I get that a lot. :p



Go on about any of them if you want, Nietzsche. I've only seen that youtube (excellent channel - "UnknownWW2incolor" - surreal vintage videos).
In that case I'll do the ones I'm most familiar with, the ones in Ostpreußen.

Edit: Haven't finished this part yet, I'll have to put it in a new post.

I think Hiddelston is perfect with a little make-up, Nietzsche.

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Daaaamn, that's a young picture of Goebbels. You can see now how the guy managed to have something like 14-15 children.

Stalin was club footed, I only recall Geobbels mentioning an agonizing pain in his foot, I presume gout.
I'm pretty sure Goebbels had a clubfoot, which is why he didn't fight in the Great War...

Yep, clubfoot.

I imagined that they killed the Aryan children for that reason, saving them from being raped, murdered or exploited as freaks of Nazi science.
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Look up the Lebensborn.
 

Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
Lebensborn

What a ****ed up idea. The Nazi were needlessly cruel in that whole idea to kidnap these children instead of adopting them into the program.

The idea is outrageous by todays standards of breeding.

Science and pharmaceuticals will save the genepool!

That's another thing that runs through my mind reading Nazi ethics. They had such a ****ed up approach to the most practical ideas like eugenics.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
What a ****ed up idea. The Nazi were needlessly cruel in that whole idea to kidnap these children instead of adopting them into the program.

The idea is outrageous by todays standards of breeding.

Science and pharmaceuticals will save the genepool!

That's another thing that runs through my mind reading Nazi ethics. They had such a ****ed up approach to the most practical ideas like eugenics.
Here's the funny thing.

One thing notably improved in Germany when the Nazis were in power. Divorced women, single mothers, women with children born out of wedlock or such...they received state funds and were taken care of. If they were of the right stock, of course. Before the Nazis, governments and society viewed them with scorn & derision. Well, society still largely did. But the government was happy to give the woman & child top-notch, 1st class care & services. Free housing, day-care(if the mothers worked in War Industries), food, medicine...all paid for by the government, no questions asked bar proving your ancestry(something the government would also do).

This applies especially to War Widows & girlfriends of men who died on the front. All you needed in the case of the latter was a letter proving romantic intent(generally the assumption to get married after the war and such), and you were taken in by the Reich. You'd get his pension, equal rights to his property, so on and so forth.

It's astounding.
 

Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
Ah.... How would that turn over in Deutschland today? :tonguewink:

Lots of financially secure types, eh? I sort of think this based on some experiences.
 

Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
Oh, the money was worthless after the war.

Oh, ya, true... Dem Reichmarks ain't worth a damn. Another thing about Nazi economics was Hitler did use the gold standard, people majorly thought he made fake money them Hitler 2 dollar bills.


Deutschlands welfare system must be fantastic still..

Please, RF, do not leave Nietzsche's genius to converse this dullard.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Oh, ya, true... Dem Reichmarks ain't worth a damn. Another thing about Nazi economics was Hitler did use the gold standard, people majorly thought he made fake money them Hitler 2 dollar bills.
I could go on for ages about the utter insanity of Nazi 'Economics'. Despite running since 1933 on what could be called 'War Footing', that is sidelining goods production to produce weapons & machinery, they only entered a proper War Economy in 1945 with the Bolsheviks basically hammering on Berlin's front door. Not to mention that Germany had no choice but to win the war. They had amassed so much debt that it would've required the looting of France, the Lowlands, Bohemia, Yugoslavia, the Baltic, European Russia & the Ukraine to pay off their own internal debts

Orwell's "Forever War" concept? It was basically official Nazi Policy.

Deutschlands welfare system must be fantastic still..
It is. It's also literally the first & oldest in place. Otto von Bismarck, one of my heroes, implemented it.

Please, RF, do not leave Nietzsche's genius to converse this dullard.
I will educate all willing to learn.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Why did the heads of I.G. Farben get such relatively short sentences, and end up returning to Germany to work in many of same sectors, or transition to places like Berlin West.

Do you think these people got of easy. If so, or if not, how come?
 
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