Ask me about the Third Reich, National Socialism, Hitler & the Holocaust

[Norman]

Many did. Okay, well then which North African country did Hitler escape via a tunnel through his bunker?

Norman: Hi dust1n, as Hitler was standing outside his bunker, He could see the Russian tanks coming right for him. The Russians killed Hitler and burned his body. The
American forces were right behind the Russians, I know there are a lot of conspiracy stories out there that Hitler escaped and lived and died somewhere in South America.
I guess it comes down to believing the Russians or not believing the Russians. At least, this is my take on it.

 

[Nietzsche]

Norman: What do you know about why Hitler came to a conclusion in his life to want to commit genocide of the Jews, children with disabilities, Catholics, Jehovah Witnesses and many others? Was he just a sick man or did he know what he was doing? Good Question.

This is a misconception. There was no single "genocide order" or "genocide decision". The Camps were initially just holding areas for dissidents, political enemies, other such things. Not too different from what the United States did with Japanese, Italian and German Americans. But around 1943, and certainly 1944, it became obvious they would not be able to move these people out of the Reich. That's when the killing began to ramp up.

As to whether he was a sick man....he knew. But he was also deeply, legitimately paranoid. When he spoke of an "international Jewish conspiracy", it was not rhetoric. He believed it in full.

 

[LuisDantas]

Guderian, alongside von Manstein & Rommel, the father of modern Mobile Armoured Warfare. 'Shock & Awe' is latter-day Blitzkrieg.

Excuse me, isn't some part of this sentence missing? Perhaps just an "is" after "Rommel"?

 

[LuisDantas]

Integralism is an extremely interesting variant of Fascism-National Socialism. It believed in a state identity rather than a racial one. One can be from anywhere, but all shall be Brazilians at the end of the day.

That is very much a Brazilian way of thinking. All things considered, we are ultimately nearly strangers to the idea of ethnical conflict.

Instead, we tend to have considerable social-economic based internal conflict.

 

[Norman]

This is a misconception. There was no single "genocide order" or "genocide decision". The Camps were initially just holding areas for dissidents, political enemies, other such things. Not too different from what the United States did with Japanese, Italian and German Americans. But around 1943, and certainly 1944, it became obvious they would not be able to move these people out of the Reich. That's when the killing began to ramp up.

As to whether he was a sick man....he knew. But he was also deeply, legitimately paranoid. When he spoke of an "international Jewish conspiracy", it was not rhetoric. He believed it in full.

Norman: very informative, thank you.

 

[LuisDantas]

When he spoke of an "international Jewish conspiracy", it was not rhetoric. He believed it in full.

I take it that he was not all that unusual for the Europe of the time in that respect?

This is one of the very few things that significantly changed since WW2, IMO.

 

[Nietzsche]

Excuse me, isn't some part of this sentence missing? Perhaps just an "is" after "Rommel"?

Yes, you would be right. There should be an 'is' after Rommel.

 

[Nietzsche]

I take it that he was not all that unusual for the Europe of the time in that respect?

Some notion of a Jewish "conspiracy" was normal for Europe at the time(even Churchill could be counted among believers). But Hitler took it far, far further than most. To the average person it was not a over-arching & all-powerful. To Hitler? It was. More powerful than even the Reich.

This is one of the very few things that significantly changed since WW2, IMO.

6 Million dead Jews sort of took the teeth out of those claims, yes.

 

[dust1n]

In accounts of Hitler in the last 48 hours of his last you know about, particularly one that is online.

 

[Whiterain]

What do you know about the Uberman, New Man and Jotun studies. The resources are hard to find anymore.

Unless I already asked.

 

[Nietzsche]

In accounts of Hitler in the last 48 hours of his last you know about, particularly one that is online.

There is a Last Will & Testament, along with his final political manifesto, and the account of Christa Schroeder. What in particular are you wanting to know?

What do you know about the Uberman, New Man and Jotun studies. The resources are hard to find anymore.

Unless I already asked.

I've never heard of that. Elaborate.

 

[Whiterain]

The facts are dodgey at best. There were numerous photos of giants. The Reich was holding 'strongman' games to award someone with the title Ubermensch.

Übermensch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's all dodgy, but there are some photos.

Nazi ubermensch - Google Search

The closest he got to was the 7ft tall Man he labelled the "Hunnenmensch" (spelling)

Having a laugh at Auschwitz.

He turned to be one cruel son of a *****.

You really didn't read the occult stuff? My god man, I found it amazing. Most of the photos have been removed from the net anymore though.

 

[Nietzsche]

The facts are dodgey at best. There were numerous photos of giants. The Reich was holding 'strongman' games to award someone with the title Ubermensch.

Übermensch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's all dodgy, but there are some photos.

Nazi ubermensch - Google Search

The closest he got to was the 7ft tall Man he labelled the "Hunnenmensch" (spelling)

Having a laugh at Auschwitz.


He turned to be one cruel son of a *****.



You really didn't read the occult stuff? My god man, I found it amazing. Most of the photos have been removed from the net anymore though.

Ohhhh, that. The stuff where Himmler claimed that Germanic Aryans were descended from Atlantis and such. The really weird, bat****-insane stuff.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Ohhhh, that. The stuff where Himmler claimed that Germanic Aryans were descended from Atlantis and such. The really weird, bat****-insane stuff.

Yeah, and it goes further to say that Aryans are descended from aliens from Aldebaran.

 

[Whiterain]

Ya, definitely bat **** insane, I am baffled with their ideology. I need to find pictures of the giants though.

I don't believe evolution is totally correct but Nazi ideology on evolution is no alternative for a sane mind.

They would send men to kill you and kidnap your children, cruel.

What do the Russians think? Do they believe contemporary evolution? They're like the worst hypocrites.

That's going off topic though.

 

[Flankerl]

Having a laugh at Auschwitz.

He turned to be one cruel son of a *****.

You really didn't read the occult stuff? My god man, I found it amazing. Most of the photos have been removed from the net anymore though.

Those are some nice Photoshopped pictures you got there.

 

[Nietzsche]

Those are some nice Photoshopped pictures you got there.

Those particular ones are, though I've seen two or three genuine "giant" Wehrmacht soldiers who were apparently directly descended from Frederich William I's Potsdamer Riesengarde.

 

[Whiterain]

I can't tell the top one is. I just noticed the lighting contrast in the second one.

The story is true though.

I didn't even analyze them and I am exquisite at shop.

Son of a ***** that's hilarious.

Good follow up Nietzsche.

It's not Nazi propaganda, the story is true.

 

[LuisDantas]

Some notion of a Jewish "conspiracy" was normal for Europe at the time(even Churchill could be counted among believers). But Hitler took it far, far further than most. To the average person it was not a over-arching & all-powerful. To Hitler? It was. More powerful than even the Reich.

6 Million dead Jews sort of took the teeth out of those claims, yes.

This may be off-topic, but I am trying to understand how come anti-semitism grew so large. Maybe it is largely a consequence of their lack of a country of their own, after all?

There is some evidence suggesting that people in Europe felt (and may still feel) strongly attached to "their" lands and might easily come to resent significantly sized communities of "outsider" settlers. That is understandable to a point, since land was so tied to survival and arguably will always be.

Jewish people could not be counted on to fight for the Church nor for a King that was supposedly blessed by the Christian God, yet they would unavoidably need vital space, jobs, water and food, so their very presence would have some impact. They would be perceived as something of a wild card and a resources drain. Lacking a king or army of their own, they would also be conveniently unresisting targets of any expansionist or greedy rulers who would have little fear of resistance. And if human psychology did not change too much in the last thousand years or so, those who preyed upon the Jewish People can be trusted to have been their most unfatigable critics and ill-sayers.

That looks like a plausible scenario to me and would explain a lot, up to and including the decision to support a Jewish state after WW2 when there was so little interest in the idea previously, as well as the apparent resignation of many of the Jewish in accepting endless conflict.

Of course, I am guessing wild like heck. No doubt a lot of the Jewish in the forums will feel horrified or just pitied of my ignorance on the matter. If it helps any, I admit that I have no knowledge on the matter worth speaking about.

Anyway, that is my attempt at understanding anti-semitism to the best of my current knowledge. Do you see anything there that you would like to comment or correct? Or maybe I should just bring this to some other area or thread? What do you think?

 

[Flankerl]

I can't tell the top one is. I just noticed the lighting contrast in the second one.

The first one is a shopped famous picture of Mengele and Co.

And the second one is a superenlarged Hess.




About the project: Its most probably more bull**** than anything else. If there was such a project it was probably just about special arranged marriages coupled with some good old head measuring.