I prefer cheerios.
Dang, I prefer corn flakes.
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Dang, I prefer corn flakes.
The Holy Bottom Burp
Active Member
Oh my giddy aunt, I've think we've just witnessed the first schism in the Pantheist movement!
What are your thoughts on the life after death question?
Edit: I see the answer is 'No' by reading through the thread. What is your thoughts then on belief through the paranormal evidence as opposed to metaphysical reasoning. I am convinced by the overwhelming evidence from multiple fields of paranormal study. Have you looked into this much? Or are you a hardcore skeptic?
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Pantheism is more like revering nature. It`s about the interconnectedness of the the universe. It has less to do with God. You can be a theist and a pantheist, or an atheist and a pantheist or a deist and a pantheist. However, it has nothing to do with a personal God. I`d suggest you to check out the pantheist movement website or maybe just read the book elements of pantheism by Paul Harrison.
I`m open to evidence. I think supernatural experiences pose a genuine problem and we need to look into this. I`m not going to jump into conclusions before that. Science will explain this sooner or later.
What kinds of Gods and religious views have you investigated and rejected so far?
Why do you call supernatural experiences a problem? Is this a competition or search for understanding?
It`s a search for understanding. I shouldn`t have used the word problem, it`s just mystery, I guess. An unsolved question like consciousness.
I have read almost half the works of Vivekananda who was a famous guru. I have read Edwin Arnold`s translation of the Gita along with lots of other works about Hinduism. I`ve also read about Jainism and Buddhism. I`ve forayed into the world of Islam through Reza Aslan and the Quran and other books. I`ve read parts of the New and Old testament but I`ve read contemporary works on Christianity. So, yeah religion obsesses me and I still read books about it. An ongoing investigation, I guess
Nice. What did you think about Vivekananda and Gita?I have read almost half the works of Vivekananda who was a famous guru. I have read Edwin Arnold`s translation of the Gita along with lots of other works about Hinduism. I`ve also read about Jainism and Buddhism. I`ve forayed into the world of Islam through Reza Aslan and the Quran and other books. I`ve read parts of the New and Old testament but I`ve read contemporary works on Christianity. So, yeah religion obsesses me and I still read books about it. An ongoing investigation, I guess
I liked lots of his philosophies. Gita intrigued me too!
Well, anything else would be confusing.
Would you call yourself a secular humanist?
Any book recommendation, a atheistic book that you particularly like?
Would you call yourself a secular humanist?
Any book recommendation, a atheistic book that you particularly like?
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
Neither. They prefer leftovers from the experiments of Bill Nye.
yeah, I`d call myself that. Recommendation? yeah! The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins, The End of Faith by Sam Harris, God is not great by Christopher Hitchens, God;the failed hypothesis by Victor Strenger, The portable atheist y Hitchens, The Good book by AC Grayling, Breaking the spell by Dan dennett
VioletVortex
Well-Known Member
What are thoughts on the viewing of deities as symbols. In my opinion, that makes one a "theist".
Since I am not a Christian or a Muslim, such books are not that useful to me. Thus all I know after reading them is that new atheists are folks who are enthusiastic about science and have rejected Bible and Quran as guides. I am more interested in books that point to a constellation of ideas that motivate the vision, values, ethics, politics and philosophy of new atheists and secular humanists.
IMO, pantheism and atheism are incompatible. An atheist doesn't believe in any gods at all, "personal" or not.
... Unless you're talking about using "god" as a metaphor and not as something you literally believe in. Is that it?
What does one's religion have to do with the cases made by these authors?