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TruthaboutGod

Active Member
Mestemia said:
Make up you mind then:

emphasis added my Mestemia​
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This makes perfect sense, did you not understand? I cannot present a source because I did not present an opinion. The Knowledge that God provides is not considered opinion, it is considered fact. I believe that I may have answered this in a way you did not understand.
 
K.Venugopal

K.Venugopal

Immobile Wanderer
~Amin~ said:
I said in a previous post you DIDNT quote "God can do all things that's in-keeping with Him being God" if God(Glorified is He) were to reveal Himself in different ways this will NOT be IN-KEEPING with Him being God cause He would be contradicting Himself, and God doesn't contradict Himself.
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After you said “God can do all things”, you put a condition on God’s omnipotency by continuing “that’s in keeping with Him being God”. You put this condition to emphasis that whatever God does, He would not contradict Himself. My question is, when God says He is One in the Quran and He says He is many in the Bhagwad Gita, how is it a contradiction? For example in the Quran Allah is described in one place as “the First” and in another place as “the Last”. Are not the words first and last per se a contradiction? And yet I would not (nor would you, I am sure) call it a contradiction. Likewise, if one scripture calls God “One” and another scripture calls God “Many”, why should we think it is a contradiction? Unfortunately, Muslims tend to, I am sorry to say, assume that anything said differently from the Quran in another scripture is a contradiction.

My whole exchange with you on this thread began when you said that from Adam to Mohammad God has described himself as One. I wished to remind you that the revelations “from Adam to Mohammad” are not the only revelations - that in another revelation called Bhagwad Gita, God has revealed himself as not just One but also the Many. Just as you would not see contradictions across the Quran, I do not see contradictions across all the scriptures of the world. You are taking an exclusive view and I am taking an inclusive view. No contradiction here also for me. What about you?
 
~Amin~

~Amin~

God is the King
K.Venugopal said:
My question is, when God says He is One in the Quran and He says He is many in the Bhagwad Gita, how is it a contradiction?
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1. Muslims dont believe Hindu scripture to from God, so i dont know how
you could say, "God says He is many",when you should say Gods say theres Gods.
2.Since you know, please show us were in the Hindu scripture it says Gods?
K.Venugopal said:
For example in the Quran Allah is described in one place as “the First” and in another place as “the Last”. Are not the words first and last per se a contradiction?
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First, means He was there BEFORE all creation and science confirms this scientists tell us about the Big Bag, in other words creation had a starting point, and Last means every living creature lives and dies even the sun will be extinguished, but God is Eternal, Absolute.
K.Venugopal said:
Unfortunately, Muslims tend to, I am sorry to say, assume that anything said differently from the Quran in another scripture is a contradiction.
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There's no tendency here, your 100%, if something contradicts the Qur'an
i dont believe its from God.
K.Venugopal said:
My whole exchange with you on this thread began when you said that from Adam to Mohammad God has described himself as One. I wished to remind you that the revelations “from Adam to Mohammad” are not the only revelations - that in another revelation called Bhagwad Gita, God has revealed himself as not just One but also the Many.
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I gave you evidece in the Hindu scripture's showing God's Oneness,
can you also provide references?

K.Venugopal said:
Just as you would not see contradictions across the Quran, I do not see contradictions across all the scriptures of the world. You are taking an exclusive view and I am taking an inclusive view. No contradiction here also for me. What about you?
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This means your beliefs and mine contradict each other(and i dont have a problem
with that), but we cant both be right.
And indeed, we or you are either upon guidance or in clear error.
Qur'an 34, 24.
 
~Amin~

~Amin~

God is the King
Halcyon said:
... contradiction in a single bound.

My question;

If God created existence, and God is beyond existence, does God exist?
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God exists, but He is Unique in His existence, imagine a fish imagining to itself
God must be in water to exist, just because its in water, it thinks so is God,
OR a bird thinking because it has wings so must God, same thing with humans
they try to tie God in limitations because they are bound by them, like time, matter
space, which is absurd.
God - there is no deity but Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer
of EXISTENCE. Neither drowsiness over takes Him nor sleep.
To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever on in the
earth. Who is is that can intercede with Him except by His Permission
?He Knows what is before them and what is after the, and encompass
not a thing of His Knowledge except for what He Wills. Qur'an.2, 255.
If all this is true is it not AMAZING.
 
Halcyon

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
~Amin~ said:
God exists, but He is Unique in His existence, imagine a fish imagining to itself
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I don't think you understood my question.
If God is the origin of existence, then He cannot exist because the existence of something is relient upon God causing it's existence in the first place. It's a paradox.

~Amin~ said:
If all this is true is it not AMAZING.
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If all that is true then no, it is not amazing, it's just the way it is.
 
~Amin~

~Amin~

God is the King
linwood said:
Can you define the properties of god in an understandable, rational manner?
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God has Created the creation, and sent Revelation, so it points to Him
in an understandable and very logical and rational manner, as for the essence of God,
because we are finite beings we cannot grasp the infinite except in a manner,
or to the degree that God reveals of HIMSELF, humans cannot Even understand
the creation in totality let alone the Creator, the scientists tell us that the universe
is inconceivable by the human mind, i frequently see on the documentaries that they
found NEW( wasn't known before) animals, species etc. So you may see how
reasonable this is.
And I have created things that you know, and of things
that you have no knowledge. Qur'an.
 
~Amin~

~Amin~

God is the King
Halcyon said:
I don't think you understood my question.
If God is the origin of existence, then He cannot exist because the existence of something is relient upon God causing it's existence in the first place. It's a paradox.
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I never thought of God as being the origin of creation, He is the CREATOR of
existence, creation, the origin.
Its God who created you, then provided for you, and He created death for you,
then again He will give you life(life after), HOW CAN THERE BE LIKE ANYONE UNTO
HIM.
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
TruthaboutGod said:
This makes perfect sense, did you not understand? I cannot present a source because I did not present an opinion.
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So facts have no sources?

TruthaboutGod said:
The Knowledge that God provides is not considered opinion, it is considered fact.
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It is your opinion that this alleged "Knowledge from God" is fact.

You seem to have serious problems understanding the difference between opinion and fact. You thoroughly demonstrate this with each post.

TruthaboutGod said:
I believe that I may have answered this in a way you did not understand.
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That is a given.
What I am trying to figure out is whether it is because you do not know what you are talking about or if you are merely having difficulty explaining it, or some combination of the two...OR perhaps something else entirely.
 
linwood

linwood

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by linwood
Can you define the properties of god in an understandable, rational manner?
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~Amin~ said:
God has Created the creation, and sent Revelation, so it points to Him
in an understandable and very logical and rational manner, as for the essence of God,
because we are finite beings we cannot grasp the infinite except in a manner,
or to the degree that God reveals of HIMSELF,
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Yeah, I didn`t think you could.
Maybe Truth can if he desires to answer.

the creation in totality let alone the Creator, the scientists tell us that the universe
is inconceivable by the human mind, i frequently see on the documentaries that they
found NEW( wasn't known before) animals, species etc. So you may see how
reasonable this is.
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Could you please cite a scientist who has stated that "The universe is inconceivable to the human mind?"
I don`t think there is one and I surely don`t see how the statement is reasonable.
 
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