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Mr Cheese
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um, well if you actually read scripture you would find that "Jehova" is but one name. although many argue this is grossly innacurrate...
Jehovah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia this discusses this issue at length....
In Judaism of course God has MANY names... if we look even deeper into Jewish Oral lore we find even more names, we also find the idea that any name for God is "merely" a representation of how God chooses to manifest
for example when moses was before the burning Bush God gave three names, the most common you kow of, the tetragrammaton, or as you grossly imply: Jehova
One other of those three names include "I am that I am" Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh...
All that was, is and will be.....
But of course Christians tend to have second hand information, the idea that the G_d of the Jews has one name is grossly innacurate
Names of God in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Seven Names of God
In medieval times, God was sometimes called The Seven.[13] Among the ancient Hebrews, the seven names for the Deity over which the scribes had to exercise particular care were: [14]
[edit] Lesser used names of God
Adir
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Avinu Malkenu
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Boreh
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- Adir "Strong One".
- Adon Olam "Master of the World"
- Aibishter "The Most High" (Yiddish)
- Aleim sometimes seen as an alternative transliteration of Elohim
- Avinu Malkeinu "Our Father, our King"
- Boreh "the Creator"
- Ehiyeh sh'Ehiyeh "I Am That I Am": a modern Hebrew version of "Ehyeh asher Ehyeh"
- Elohei Avraham, Elohei Yitzchak ve Elohei Ya`aqov "God of Abraham, God of Isaac, God of Jacob"
- Elohei Sara, Elohei Rivka, Elohei Leah ve Elohei Rakhel "God of Sarah, God of Rebecca, God of Leah, God of Rachel"
- El ha-Gibbor "God the hero" or "God the strong one" or "God the warrior"
- Emet "Truth"
- E'in Sof "endless, infinite", Kabbalistic name of God
- HaKadosh, Baruch Hu "The Holy One, Blessed be He"
- Kadosh Israel "Holy One of Israel"
- Melech HaMelachim "The King of kings" or Melech Malchei HaMelachim "The King, King of kings", to express superiority to the earthly rulers title
- Makom or HaMakom literally "the place", meaning "The Omnipresent"; see Tzimtzum
- Magen Avraham "Shield of Abraham"
- Ribbono shel `Olam "Master of the World"
- Ro'eh Yisra'el "Shepherd of Israel"
- YHWH-Yireh (Jehovah-jireh) "The LORD will provide" (Genesis 22:13-14)
- YHWH-Rapha "The LORD that healeth" (Exodus 15:26)
- YHWH-Niss"i (Yahweh-Nissi) "The LORD our Banner" (Exodus 17:8-15)
- YHWH-Shalom "The LORD our Peace" (Judges 6:24)
- YHWH-Ra-ah "The LORD my Shepherd" (Psalm 23:1)
- YHWH-Tsidkenu "The LORD our Righteousness" (Jeremiah 23:6)
- YHWH-Shammah (Jehovah-shammah) "The LORD is present" (Ezekiel 48:35)
- Tzur Israel "Rock of Israel"
Yahweh is the English rendering of יַהְוֶה , a Hebrew vocalization of the Tetragrammaton יהוה that was proposed by the Hebrew scholar Wilhelm Gesenius in the 19th century.[1] Although this vocalized Hebrew spelling יַהְוֶה is found in no extant Hebrew Manuscript, several English Bibles use the spelling "Yahweh" in the Old Testament. This rendering, as with many religious and scholarly issues, remains the subject of ongoing debate.[2] The stem of the name Yahweh (Yah-) remains widely accepted but disagreements continue on the ending (-weh).
According to the Bible, Yahweh is the personal name of the one true God who delivered Israel from Egypt and gave the Ten Commandments, "Then God spoke all these words. He said, I am Yahweh your God who brought you out of Egypt, where you lived as slaves. You shall have no other gods to rival me.[3] Yahweh revealed himself to Israel as a jealous God who would not permit his people to make idols or follow gods of other nations[4] or worship gods known by other names, "I am Yahweh, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another, or my praise to idols."[5] Yahweh demanded the role of the one true God in the hearts and minds of Israel, "Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one: and you shall love Yahweh your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might."[6]
The 7th-11th century Masoretic Text vocalises the Hebrew term יהוה as יְהֹוָה (YeHoWah/JeHoVaH). The Masoretic text underlies the Old Testament of the most circulated Bible[citation needed] of the Christian world, the King James Version, as well as many of the other English language versions. However, this vocalization had been disputed by Hebrew scholars from as early as 1604 A.D. In the 19th century, the Jehovah vocalization was rejected by major Hebrew scholars who did not believe that it accurately represented the original pronunciation.[7] They based their rejection on Epiphanius's Greek transcription Ιαβε (representing Yave) of a term used by some Gnostic circles. Gesenius proposed יַהְוֶה as the correction.[7] However, the form Yahweh is also criticized.[8]
Yahweh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It my be innacurate we no longer use Hebrew as a language, but at least it is still being used and made holy by being used. (the first thing prayed for in the "lords Prayer")
what his name means, not what his name is.
Ex 3:15 Jehovah the God of YOUR forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, has sent me to YOU. This is my name to time indefinite
Yahweh is the English rendering of יַהְוֶה , a Hebrew vocalization of the Tetragrammaton יהוה that was proposed by the Hebrew scholar Wilhelm Gesenius in the 19th century.[1] Although this vocalized Hebrew spelling יַהְוֶה is found in no extant Hebrew Manuscript, several English Bibles use the spelling "Yahweh" in the Old Testament. This rendering, as with many religious and scholarly issues, remains the subject of ongoing debate.[2] The stem of the name Yahweh (Yah-) remains widely accepted but disagreements continue on the ending (-weh).
According to the Bible, Yahweh is the personal name of the one true God who delivered Israel from Egypt and gave the Ten Commandments, "Then God spoke all these words. He said, I am Yahweh your God who brought you out of Egypt, where you lived as slaves. You shall have no other gods to rival me.[3] Yahweh revealed himself to Israel as a jealous God who would not permit his people to make idols or follow gods of other nations[4] or worship gods known by other names, "I am Yahweh, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another, or my praise to idols."[5] Yahweh demanded the role of the one true God in the hearts and minds of Israel, "Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one: and you shall love Yahweh your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might."[6]
The 7th-11th century Masoretic Text vocalises the Hebrew term יהוה as יְהֹוָה (YeHoWah/JeHoVaH). The Masoretic text underlies the Old Testament of the most circulated Bible[citation needed] of the Christian world, the King James Version, as well as many of the other English language versions. However, this vocalization had been disputed by Hebrew scholars from as early as 1604 A.D. In the 19th century, the Jehovah vocalization was rejected by major Hebrew scholars who did not believe that it accurately represented the original pronunciation.[7] They based their rejection on Epiphanius's Greek transcription Ιαβε (representing Yave) of a term used by some Gnostic circles. Gesenius proposed יַהְוֶה as the correction.[7] However, the form Yahweh is also criticized.[8]
Yahweh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/quote]
We wont know how to say his name properly until the new system due ot the fact that it has been changed and we no longer speak the language.
Use the closest english version though, at least it is still in use. Thats the point, keep it in use.
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
Yes, tell that to the israelis...
Why would I say that to the israelis?
Its the ISraelits and they are no longer his chosen people.
Also we dont speak ancient hebrew, otherwise we would know how to pronounce his name, but we are at least trying to make te english translated version known, so it is still in use.
We will be corrected in the news system I am sure.