I'm not a true Scotsman, either.
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Atheism: A belief?
- Thread starter Orias
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doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
Unless Scotsmen always lie. In which case . . . er . . . now I'm confused.
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
Duh, you're a Canadian Penguinian.
Well, in so far as the choice of the word "refute" is not debatable, sure.
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I think that is a bit strong ism. The better version is I lack belief
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
No doubt - I'm terrified of holding irrational beliefs.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
Yeah, and the third one just tells bad jokes.
Orias
Left Hand Path
Without dancing around the topic or even the definition of "atheism", which so far I have gained from people is...
"Lack of belief in "God(s)"
Disbelief in "God(s)"
Denial of "God(s)"
Can anyone refute the claim the "atheism" is not a belief, besides just downright saying that it's not, or even complicating it to the point where the partakers cannot even distinguish what is and what isn't determination?
"Lack of belief in "God(s)"
Disbelief in "God(s)"
Denial of "God(s)"
Can anyone refute the claim the "atheism" is not a belief, besides just downright saying that it's not, or even complicating it to the point where the partakers cannot even distinguish what is and what isn't determination?
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Nope - no one yet has been able to refute that atheism isn't a belief.
Orias
Left Hand Path
No one has done the Opposite either.
Subjective experiences lies to us all I guess
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I guess if you're not paying attention.
Orias
Left Hand Path
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
More accurately, you haven't acknowledged anyone doing the opposite (supporting the fact that atheism is not a belief). It's been done many times.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Wow, another completely irrelevant remark. What a treat.
Orias
Left Hand Path
I have actually, I was just responding to Kilgore's conniving and misrepresented points. (Or that he just completely ignores or doesn't pay attention to anyone elses refutes)
I just tend to disagree with running in circles.
Yes, you are filled with them.
From this article....
Atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
we have....
"In practical or pragmatic atheism, also known as apatheism, individuals live as if there are no gods and explain natural phenomena without resorting to the divine. The existence of gods is not rejected, but may be designated unnecessary or useless; gods neither provide purpose to life, nor influence everyday life, according to this view.[55] A form of practical atheism with implications for the scientific community is methodological naturalism—the "tacit adoption or assumption of philosophical naturalism within scientific method with or without fully accepting or believing it."
People who operate this way would seem to lack belief.
It looks like refutation to me.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
How would this refute that atheism isn't a belief? Wouldn't a lack of belief imply it isn't a belief?