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Atheism: An Empty Shell of a Life

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Cooky

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Well it might to you, because you happen to be a certain sort of religious believer. However I know quite a few atheists and I see no evidence that they consider there is anything missing from their lives, nor can I say that I perceive any particular emptiness in them. Although it is true that, since they don't go to church on Sundays, they have to read the Sunday papers instead*, which is a fairly vacuous pursuit. :D


* I remember in one of Evelyn Waugh's novels, he pokes fun at some atheists by having them subscribe to a paper called, "The Godless Sunday At Home".

People shouldn't attempt to spread their non-belief... Because it hurts other people.
 

Cooky

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Once I met a 13 years old boy who felt sad that his friends stopped believing Santa. He said: Christmas must be now very empty and hollow for them.

However: I am not sure we should be sorry for.

Ciao

- viole

Of course you should.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
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I want to ask people if they see the same thing about Atheism -that it's an empty shell of a life. I'm not talking about scriptures, church, beliefs, facts or anything else... I just want to see if anyone else sees that no connection to divinity feels empty, and lacking... your opinions would be appreciated.




As an atheist (so i know what i'm talking about, unlike at least one person here) i can assure you that non belief in a bronze age myth (or any other god) does not make life an empty shell. Family and friends mean as much, if not more to this atheist. Running a household and all that entails that in all probability you think just happens because your good lady does it all while you ponder your belly button. Hobbies, yes we atheists have them to can be extremely constructive and educational. Even sunday morning while many christians are at church talking to their imagination you will find atheists busy trying to lighten the load of their far from empty shell of a life

Empty shell if a life, if your OP were in the jokes forum i could understand the sarcasm, as it stands i consider it ignorance.
 

Valjean

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I predicted many Atheists would show up. I'm prepared for my beatings. But it won't deter me from proceeding.
OK, what do you mean by an empty shell of a life? What's empty? What's lacking?

I could claim theists live lives of terror, constantly under threat of Hell fire for wrong beliefs, thought crimes or wrong action. How is this fulfillment? How is this more desirable than a rich, happy, carefree life, free of intimidation?
 

Cooky

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As an atheist (so i know what nm talking about, unlike at least one person here) i can assure you that non belief in a bronze age myth (or any other god) does not make life an empty shell. Family and friends mean as much, if not more to this atheist. Running a household and all that entails that in all probability you think just happens because your good lady does it all while you ponder your belly button. Hobbies, yes we atheists have them to can be extremely constructive and educational. Even sunday morning while many christians are at church talking to their imagination you will find atheists busy trying to lighten the load of their far from empty shell of a life

Empty shell if a life, if your OP were in the jokes forum i could understand the sarcasm, as it stands i consider it ignorance.

Its how I would feel as an Atheist... And you would do that to me.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I want to ask people if they see the same thing about Atheism -that it's an empty shell of a life. I'm not talking about scriptures, church, beliefs, facts or anything else... I just want to see if anyone else sees that no connection to divinity feels empty, and lacking... your opinions would be appreciated.


Maybe atheists gain the same feelings of happiness from materalistic things as spiritual people gain from their practice?
Is it an empty Shell? Hmmm probably not for them, otherwise they would be on search for something better to give them happiness and joy :)
 
Ok. So the reason that theists feel that the godless live empty lives is most likely because the theists tend to believe in an afterlife and "something more" and a purpose.

So it is imagined by theists, when they try to think about it, that being an atheist means when you die you are gone, and life is just a game of making money pointlessly to survive for a little while and die, everything you do and think and make ultimately amounting to nothing you can even eventually reap benefits from or enjoy.

Its like imagining a farmer working and toiling at planting and growing as they burn in the sun and decay and drop dead, the whole endeavour appearing to be futile and worthless as no sustained or much repeatable pleasure was earned or gained, just 60 to 80 years of worthless struggles and various sufferings and small pleasures with nothing in the end but wasted time.

The theists on the other hand imagine that they are struggling for a reason, that they often believe they will have eternal life or be given a great extension and that their actions and conduct have immediate as well as future and afterlife consequences and purpose which gives them more "meaning" as they relate to a goal that goes beyond the expected 60 to 80 years.

I love thinking about both ideas.

What if and what are the implications if your good deeds and bad deeds mostly amount to nothing, no one is watching and no one cares, you're on your own and your pain and pleasure is of no interest to anyone but yourself? You are born, forced and pressured to waste your limited time making money to survive, and in yiyr death everything is wiped for you as you can't even reminisce about anything or remember because you're dead and gone forever.

What implications are there if what you do does count for something that you can't escape later after you die?
 

Cooky

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1) if some people are allowed to spread religious belief then in fairness others should equally be allowed to spread non-belief.

2) What evidence is there is spreading non-belief is any more hurtful to people than spreading belief?

Because it hurts my soul.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
hmmmmm…..I sense confusion

you can fill your hours with all sorts of things
whether you believe in God....or not

Anything a believers does.....so too the nonbeliever

but at the end of hours
when that last hour arrives....
a believer might stand from the carcass
and not follow it into the box
into the grave
into eternal darkness

if there is no God waiting for you
it might better had you never been born

whether you believe in God

or not
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
I want to ask people if they see the same thing about Atheism -that it's an empty shell of a life. I'm not talking about scriptures, church, beliefs, facts or anything else... I just want to see if anyone else sees that no connection to divinity feels empty, and lacking... your opinions would be appreciated.
I don't like the labels but I don't believe in any kind of god and don't consider my life is an "empty shell". Wouldn't your question imply that you feel that the only thing that gives your life any meaning at all is your "connection to divinity"?

In reality, I think we all have a whole mixture of things that give our lives meaning or purpose, constantly changing and with lots of cross-over. I've shared significant and meaningful experiences with other people of all sorts of different religious beliefs. That aspect (or any other) isn't the be-all and end-all of life.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
hmmmmm…..I sense confusion

you can fill your hours with all sorts of things
whether you believe in God....or not

Anything a believers does.....so too the nonbeliever

but at the end of hours
when that last hour arrives....
a believer might stand from the carcass
and not follow it into the box
into the grave
into eternal darkness

if there is no God waiting for you
it might better had you never been born

whether you believe in God

or not

Seems like a Pascal's Wager.
 

Secret Chief

Veteran Member
Maybe atheists gain the same feelings of happiness from materalistic things as spiritual people gain from their practice?

I don't self-identify as an atheist (I think I should put that as my signature) but...I'm not sure it's correct to think that a lack of belief in deities means a person's happiness exclusively comes from materialistic things.
 
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