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Atheism: An Empty Shell of a Life

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HonestJoe

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really, I only want to hear from theists.

...Atheists can post freely. But don't expect me to agree with something that goes against my conscience. It won't happen.
Why are you presuming comments from atheists on this topic would go against your conscience? Some might even agree with your assessment and so could give you much more insight than anyone looking on from the outside.

Listening to people who believe different things to you can be informative in general terms, offering insight in to exactly this kind of question. I feel that understanding people you disagree with on some key issue is probably more important than understanding people you agree with.
 

Secret Chief

Veteran Member
How do certain threads get attention? Which area are they usually posted in?

I fear I don't know how to get activity on my threads, but they could just be uninteresting to people but are seen.

I asked about Atheism and Theism and wanted to know in depth stories and testimonials but I don't even know where my threads even show up, I can scarcely find them again myself, its just like they go poof!

Moving Towards Atheism or Theism? Shifts, New Beliefs, Etc.

Can the Atheists and Theists from here go to my thread also and write their stories about their journeys and thoughts please? I'd really appreciate it!

Try making grumpy assertions.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Why are you presuming comments from atheists on this topic would go against your conscience? Some might even agree with your assessment and so could give you much more insight than anyone looking on from the outside.

I realize this. I've spoken to Atheists in the past who were previously believers, and in our deepest conversations they have indeed admitted to feelings of loss.

..Today, they appear to be acting militant IMO.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I want to ask people if they see the same thing about Atheism -that it's an empty shell of a life. I'm not talking about scriptures, church, beliefs, facts or anything else... I just want to see if anyone else sees that no connection to divinity feels empty, and lacking... your opinions would be appreciated.
I'm not a believer.

I assure you that my life has been greatly rewarding, and full of meaning and purpose, and when it ends, I'll think I've been pretty dang fortunate.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Is that your perception - that there is only belief in the spirit and material/ism?

What is the love between two atheists? Materialism?
the same as it would be for a believer

but a believer expects an afterlife
a continuation

more of it
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Your mission is crystal clear to me. Just know I will remain permanently in opposition.

Who cares, you wear your ignorance of Atheism like a crown. You have ignored posts relevant to your OP and chose only to insult and argue, it is obvious what your mission is and i for one think its a very sad indictment of your deliberate ignorance, christianity in general and RF riles
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I tend to think that the importance is more what we do than what we may believe even though the two interrelate. IOW, do we walk-the-walk or just talk-the-talk? There's been many times whereas I was more in sync with some agnostics and atheists than with some of my fellow theists.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I predicted many Atheists would show up. I'm prepared for my beatings. But it won't deter me from proceeding.
Naw. Just about everything in the universe goes along fine without any gods whatsoever.

Without the worries and concerns of the constraints of conceptualized religion, artificially going against the grain of one's own nature, being afraid of artificially constructed crisis's and one's own fate with the inclusion of an imaginary soul etc.

It's quite shocking to find theists themselves are not much more insane than they already are. All pent up and all that , like an overheating pressure cooker waiting to explode!


I'd say that would amicably free up any atheist's time considerably, and to be able to focus all the natural inclinations that nature provides minus all that baggage would be like comparing a wonderful Caribbean day at the beach, to someone expressing how god-awful you are every Sunday and what a wretched backslidden person you've become with the need to walk away feeling vindicated because you asked for forgiveness and do it all over again. .. And again ... and again... That's gotta wear and stress a person down! *Yikes*

Nope atheists are quite happy and quite liberated as they only have to worry about problems that are actually real without all the imaginary ones on top of it.

Having an empty life is far from it all. In fact, it's quite the contrary in comparison. !O)
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
I want to ask people if they see the same thing about Atheism -that it's an empty shell of a life. I'm not talking about scriptures, church, beliefs, facts or anything else... I just want to see if anyone else sees that no connection to divinity feels empty, and lacking... your opinions would be appreciated.
Yes, I think the atheist-materialist view of reality is much darker, pointless and depressive than spiritualist beliefs which include a grander purpose and continuation of life after death.

However if I intellectually believed atheistic-materialism was correct then I would find a way to make the best of it as it appears most atheists do.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Maybe atheists gain the same feelings of happiness from materalistic things as spiritual people gain from their practice?
Is it an empty Shell? Hmmm probably not for them, otherwise they would be on search for something better to give them happiness and joy

How do you know that "atheists get the same feeling of happiness as spiritual people gain from their practice"? Why even speculate? You are not an atheist and you surely cannot speak for millions of theists of many different faiths and beliefs.

Something better? Like believing in stories that were written by ignorant men for consumption by ignorant men 6000 years ago or 28 years ago?
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Yes, I think the atheist-materialist view of reality is much darker, pointless and depressive than spiritualist beliefs which include a grander purpose and continuation of life after death.

However if I intellectually believed atheistic-materialism was correct then I would find a way to make the best of it as it appears most atheists do.

Exactly. Who can miss something they've never experienced... But to work towards making Atheists out of theists, is a terrible thing to do.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
How do you know how you would feel if you were an atheist? You are working from a reference frame of complete ignorance.

Nonsense. Everyone lapses in faith. And when I do, I feel a great loss. Something missing. Which is why I take great offense to Atheists who actively work toward diminishing the faith of others.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
How do you know that "atheists get the same feeling of happiness as spiritual people gain from their practice"? Why even speculate? You are not an atheist and you surely cannot speak for millions of theists of many different faiths and beliefs.

Something better? Like believing in stories that were written by ignorant men for consumption by ignorant men 6000 years ago or 28 years ago?
Did you see the "maybe" in my post, could happen i dont know what atheists feel, want, longing for. It was only a thought from me.

But no i have no clue what atheists looking for.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
But to work towards making Atheists out of theists, is a terrible thing to do.
Mark 9:42 42"If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
How do you know how you would feel if you were an atheist? You are working from a reference frame of complete ignorance.
and you have made an assumption

it may be true.....the poster of the op might not understand …..not believing

but that would not be true of me

I do understand.....nonbelief

and there are two levels of ignorance
they who are not informed are ignorant
and they who CHOOSE to ignore ….are profoundly ignorant
 
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