Atheism: An Empty Shell of a Life

[ChristineM]

Have you forgotten that I added -materialism too when I said Atheist-Materialism? That is the philosophy I was referring to.

Materialism usually (but not necessarily) accompanies atheism.

And thats what i asked you, what is atheist-materialism? It does not seem to be a concept outside the minds of some theists ignorant of what atheism actually is.

 

[Father Heathen]

I predicted many Atheists would show up.

Of course. You openly made an assertion about a group of people who would obviously disagree. Nobody knows a life better than the one actually living it, after all.

I'm prepared for my beatings. But it won't deter me from proceeding.

What are you attempting to achieve with this post?

 

[George-ananda]

For me, I'm not looking for a rose colored stained glass paradise that is only sourced to the whims of ones imagination. It sounds like a form of escapism to me.
A denial of the natural, where fantasy is better than reality.

In hindsight, I found it to be pretty accurate being I was a theist at one time. But that can only take you so far, especially when you keep hitting that undeniable wall of reality that affects one's fantasy necessitating the need to circumnavigate and accommodate those barriers each and every time.

Our whole existence as human beings is materialistic, so it's natural that materialism would apply. How could it not be?

For me, my study for decades of so-called paranormal/psychic phenomena has convinced me beyond reasonable doubt that spiritualist views are the reality. Materialism is easier to grasp but fails against the wall of reality when the paranormal/psychic/miraculous is experienced.

What exactly is darkness and emptiness anyways?

The philosophical realization of the upcoming extinction of all those we hold dear. A philosophical being can accept that but not forget that.

The universe on its own did a good job of bringing me into existence without involvement of any type of God. Much less one that supposedly communicates.

How do you know that the creation of the universe and the incredible complexity of life was not fostered into existence by Intelligence as I believe?

 

[George-ananda]

And thats what i asked you, what is atheist-materialism? It does does not seem to be a concept outside the minds of some theists ignorant of what atheism actually is.

??? I already explained to you what materialism is.

 

[ecco]

Nonsense. Everyone lapses in faith. And when I do, I feel a great loss. Something missing.

Lapsing in faith is not atheism. Being mad at god because your cat died is not atheism.

As I said: You are working from a reference frame of complete ignorance.

I do understand that will not stop you from continuing to prove it.

Which is why I take great offense to Atheists who actively work toward diminishing the faith of others.

I doubt anything anyone says in a forum will change the mind of any forum reader. However, it is usually the theist who is proselytizing on these forums, not the atheist. It is usually the theist that goes around telling everyone how unfulfilling the life of an atheist really is. They do it from a standpoint of complete ignorance. Do you know anyone like that?

 

[Cooky]

Then you too know just as much about atheism as the esteemed man of ignorance who opened this thread.

FYI
Atheism : disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Nothing more, nothing less.

If your goal is to kill this, I'll start another one. In fact, I'll keep you so busy and overwhelmed you won't know where to start

 

[ChristineM]

??? I already explained to you what materialism is.

You wrote "atheist-materialism"

Why do you have a problem is explaining your own words.

 

[BilliardsBall]

I want to ask people if they see the same thing about Atheism -that it's an empty shell of a life. I'm not talking about scriptures, church, beliefs, facts or anything else... I just want to see if anyone else sees that no connection to divinity feels empty, and lacking... your opinions would be appreciated.

Apparently, atheists taking psilocybin come to this conclusion about atheism, 2/3 of the time!

 

[Father Heathen]

People shouldn't attempt to spread their non-belief... Because it hurts other people.

Proseltyzation in general "hurts people". That said, very rarely does any actual atheist go out of their way to "spread non-belief." 99.9% of the time it's Christians trying to convert others, impose their beliefs, etc.

 

[Cooky]

Lapsing in faith is not atheism. Being mad at god because your cat died is not atheism.

As I said: You are working from a reference frame of complete ignorance.

I do understand that will not stop you from continuing to prove it.




I doubt anything anyone says in a forum will change the mind of any forum reader. However, it is usually the theist who is proselytizing on these forums, not the atheist. It is usually the theist that goes around telling everyone how unfulfilling the life of an atheist really is. They do it from a standpoint of complete ignorance. Do you know anyone like that?

Oh, so you are telling me how I feel and how I think.

 

[QuestioningMind]

I want to ask people if they see the same thing about Atheism -that it's an empty shell of a life. I'm not talking about scriptures, church, beliefs, facts or anything else... I just want to see if anyone else sees that no connection to divinity feels empty, and lacking... your opinions would be appreciated.

Personally I find it rather sad that you can't find meaning in this extraordinary thing we call life without inserting some' spiritual' or 'divine' connection. Sounds to me as if you're focusing so hard on this 'divinity' concept that you're missing out on what life is really all about. Can't help but feel a bit sorry for you. I suggest that you just take a deep breath and start appreciating life for the magical thing that it is. If you can't find meaning in life just for life's sake then I suggest that you're doing it wrong.

 

[ChristineM]

If your goal is to kill this, I'll start another one. In fact, I'll keep you so busy and overwhelmed you won't know where to start

Why are you making up BS to massage your ego?

I am replying to a public thread. If you don't realise the concept, replying is far from killing the thread.

If i wanted to kill the thread i would have reported the op as deliberately argumentative ignorance that contravenes the RF mission statement


Oh and threats don't help your case either

 

[ChristineM]

Oh, so you are telling me how I feel and how I think.

Well you are telling atheists how they feel and think. Fair is fair.

Or don't you like what you started?

 

[Father Heathen]

Because it hurts my soul.

If anything, ones soul would be strengthened by facing challenge.

 

[Polymath257]

I'm just telling you how I honestly feel! And I bet many other people feel the same way! Let's explore this in depth!

OK, why do you think my life is an 'empty shell'? Do you know enough about me to conclude that?

 

[George-ananda]

You wrote "atheist-materialism"

Why do you have a problem is explaining your own words.

???? It means someone that believes in atheism AND materialism.

 

[Father Heathen]

Don't take my innocence away.

What is innocence in this context?

 

[ecco]

Did you see the "maybe" in my post, could happen i dont know what atheists feel, want, longing for. It was only a thought from me.
But no i have no clue what atheists looking for.

Yes, I saw the "maybe". That's why I asked: Why even speculate?

You also speculated again and came to a conclusion:

Is it an empty Shell? Hmmm probably not for them, otherwise they would be on search for something better​

No. Not an empty shell at all. The shell is just as full as yours except it is not filled with your version of "something better". Believing in stories that were written by ignorant men for consumption by ignorant men 6000 years ago or 28 years ago isn't something better by any stretch of the imagination. Rational thinking is far, far better.

 

[Polymath257]

Its how I would feel as an Atheist... And you would do that to me.

OK, but that is *very* different than the atheists lives actually being 'empty shells'.

 

[ChristineM]

???? It means someone that believes in atheism AND materialism.

Very good. I like the AND. Its much more realistic than hyphenation don't you think