Atheism and anti-religion

[Cobblestones]

The Dalai Lama claimed to be at one point. He was asked if he was happy. He said yes. He paused for a moment, thinking, and said again, "Yes, I am."

The Buddha also claimed to have removed all regrets.

I, too, am working on discarding regret, as I believe it's a complete waste of time and energy.

Did they for sure? It would be foolish for someone else to say either way, as we don't know what's going on in their heads.

I suppose that this is reasonable but it is one thing to shed regrets and another not to ever have had any.

 

[Riverwolf]

I suppose that this is reasonable but it is one thing to shed regrets and another not to ever have had any.

Ah. I never said that the highest of spiritual people NEVER had regrets; just that they do not any longer.

After all, even the Buddha was a child once.

 

[Cobblestones]

Ah. I never said that the highest of spiritual people NEVER had regrets; just that they do not any longer.

After all, even the Buddha was a child once.

Just from curiosity, do you think that it would be an admirable quality in Stalin or Hitler or Charles Manson if they shed their ability to have regrets? It seems to me that regret is an appropriate response to wrong choices. Ridding oneself of them also rids them of a valuable guide.

 

[Riverwolf]

Just from curiosity, do you think that it would be an admirable quality in Stalin or Hitler or Charles Manson if they shed their ability to have regrets? It seems to me that regret is an appropriate response to wrong choices. Ridding oneself of them also rids them of a valuable guide.

That's a very good question; I'm glad you asked that.

These people committed acts that completely contradict pretty much every spiritual teaching there is: the most prominent teaching in all spiritual and religious texts is: "Be compassionate and love everybody." When it comes to violence, only in self-defense, and keeping honor and respect in mind. (I.E., playing fair.) These people did not do that.

Regret for the Student is a great guide. One who has ridden himself of regret through harmful means, such as what those men did, is not any indication of spiritual status; it just means they got used to the job.

It must be achieved through giving back in due what is owed.

Did I answer the question well?

 

[Willamena]

....if they shed their ability to have regrets? It seems to me that regret is an appropriate response to wrong choices. Ridding oneself of them also rids them of a valuable guide.

Just so. And if "wrong choices" were real, so would be the "regret".

 

[Autodidact]

... here is MY truth...There is no truth...

Do you see any problem with this? Anything at all that you notice here that might give you pause?

 

[Dezzie]

You do not need spirituality to be healthy. How would anyone expect an Athiest (who doesn't have proof of religion) to change their ways and lie to themselves? Lying to yourself makes you unhappy, as some have said already. If you feel you need proof to believe something, you can't "just believe" something that makes no sense to you.

 

[Cobblestones]

Did I answer the question well?

Yes, you did.

 

[Cobblestones]

Lying to yourself makes you unhappy...

I don't know how true this statement is. I can think of lots of lies that we tell ourselves that make us feel better, sometimes for a lifetime. Try this one, "God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life." I know lots of people who tell themselves this and they don't seem too miserable about it.

 

[imaginaryme]

Do you see any problem with this? Anything at all that you notice here that might give you pause?

And let there be another case where reality trumps logic. "The only truth is that there is no truth" need not be fallacy if it is the exception that proves the rule. Back to Vulcan with you!

 

[Anti-thesisofreason]

All right, I'll make it short, but here is MY truth.

Atheists, might or might not be happy, but they lack something that others have, and that is spirituality. Spirituality is a need in human beings, okay? okay.. so what I'm saying is, pick a religion, and here is why:

There is no truth, truth is absent, the definition of truth, is what people commonly accept as true, before, in Medieval Europe, the truth was Christianity, and that is it, period, they were as sure as you say, the America flag is red white and blue... Well, I say, it's just a green dot in a white background.... That's the truth.

You see, you need to get out of your philosophical comfort zone, and actualy retrospect about this issue, there is not truth, so why not pick in a beliefs, that will give you life meaning, and that "might' be true, not like worshipping a banana, but something that a lot of people believe, or that your ancestors believe, or your own belief!

Sipirituality makes you healthy.

May peace be with you.

When I was a teen I was told by a Catholic friend of mine that I should "go to church just in case", meaning just in case there was a god.
I asked him, If god is omnipotent and knows all then wouldn't god know that I didn't truly believe and that I was lying?
Who would I be fooling god or myself?

My friend did not have an answer to this. I knew right then and there that if there was a god then god was ok with me believing what I believed because I was being true to myself and true to god (if there were such a thing).

So be true to yourself and don't go trying to fool god or yourself by pretending to follow a religion that you don't believe in or one that is not fulfilling for you.

 

[Anti-thesisofreason]

Just from curiosity, do you think that it would be an admirable quality in Stalin or Hitler or Charles Manson if they shed their ability to have regrets? It seems to me that regret is an appropriate response to wrong choices. Ridding oneself of them also rids them of a valuable guide.

How long does a person need to regret a bad choice in life?

Regrets can consume a person if they are not dealt with and instead of being a valuable life lesson they can become unhealthy obsessions.

 

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Toutatis
... here is MY truth...There is no truth...
Do you see any problem with this? Anything at all that you notice here that might give you pause?

*hint* When your argument contradicts itself it's __________________. [fill in the blank]

 

[Dirty Penguin]

All right, I'll make it short, but here is MY truth.

Atheists, might or might not be happy, but they lack something that others have, and that is spirituality. Spirituality is a need in human beings, okay? okay.. so what I'm saying is, pick a religion, and here is why:

There is no truth, truth is absent, the definition of truth, is what people commonly accept as true, before, in Medieval Europe, the truth was Christianity, and that is it, period, they were as sure as you say, the America flag is red white and blue... Well, I say, it's just a green dot in a white background.... That's the truth.

You see, you need to get out of your philosophical comfort zone, and actualy retrospect about this issue, there is not truth, so why not pick in a beliefs, that will give you life meaning, and that "might' be true, not like worshipping a banana, but something that a lot of people believe, or that your ancestors believe, or your own belief!

Sipirituality makes you healthy.

May peace be with you.

You keep your "spirituality" and I'll keep my REALITY.....

 

[OmarKhayyam]

"Atheists, might or might not be happy, but they lack something that others have, and that is spirituality. Spirituality is a need in human beings, okay? "

Do you have any evidence for that - beyond your unsupported assertion?

 

[Metempsychosis]

I found my name here.Just peeped.I love atheist.They are probably much closer to truth than some of the theists.

 

[nonbeliever_92]

why is this in the science section of the forums?