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Atheism is ILLEGAL?

Matheist

http://animist.net
I wish that were true.


If you think that God supports freedom of religion, why do you oppose it?


What texts?

How could Nature's God oppose freedom of religion?

and...

He made all gods same god. (Quran 38:5)​

There is no compulsion where the deen is concerned. Right guidance (natural) has become clearly distinct from error (unnatural). Anyone who rejects false LordLaws (Forced Justice, Political Jurisprudence) and has iman in Allah (Sunnatullah, Way of Allah, LordLaw of Nature, Nature's God) has grasped the Firmest Handhold, which will never give way. Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. (Quran 2:256)

If your Lord had willed, all the people on the earth would have had iman (in Ecological Justice). Do you think you can force people to be pure natural believers? No self can have iman (in Nature) except with Allah´s permission. He places a blight on those who do not use their intellect. (10:99-100)

Say: ´It is the truth from your Lord; so let whoever wishes have iman (in Ecological Justice) and whoever wishes be kafir (in Ecological Justice).´ (Quran 18:29)​

So it is VALID, LAWFUL ...

What is your VALIDITY?

What is your LAWFULNESS?
 

Shad

Veteran Member
That is not the case for all countries.

British%20Values.jpg


What does it mean to be British?

That is the public policy for the interpretation of the Constitution and statutory laws etc.

The UK didn't follow anything you linked above until a century after the US became a nation. Your grasp of history is horrible.
 

Matheist

http://animist.net
The UK didn't follow anything you linked above until a century after the US became a nation. Your grasp of history is horrible.

Your grasp of jurisprudence and law-related is terrible.

Founding principles is the central values (public policy) on which our country was founded.

What Were The Founding Principles? | What Would The Founders Think?
_______________

If you wish to be a permanent resident or citizen of the UK, you should:

  1. respect and obey the law
  2. respect the rights of others, including their right to their own opinions
  3. treat others with fairness
  4. look after yourself and your family
  5. look after the area in which you live and the environment.
In return, the UK offers:

  1. freedom of belief and religion
  2. freedom of speech
  3. freedom from unfair discrimination
  4. a right to a fair trial
  5. a right to join in the election of a government.
Constitution of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
 
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Skwim

Veteran Member
I haven't read everything up to now, but it appears Matheist has been out trolling. That about it, M-atheist?


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Shad

Veteran Member
Your grasp of jurisprudence and law related is terrible.

Nope. After all I am pointing out the DoI has no legal power and I am right about that.



If you wish to be a permanent resident or citizen of the UK, you should:

  1. respect and obey the law
  2. respect the rights of others, including their right to their own opinions
  3. treat others with fairness
  4. look after yourself and your family
  5. look after the area in which you live and the environment.
In return, the UK offers:

  1. freedom of belief and religion
  2. freedom of speech
  3. freedom from unfair discrimination
  4. a right to a fair trial
  5. a right to join in the election of a government.
Constitution of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

You didn't respond to what I posted thus your point is irrelevant.

The UK does not have freedom of speech.
 

Matheist

http://animist.net
You didn't respond to what I posted thus your point is irrelevant.

The UK does not have freedom of speech.

So what is your argument? Your freedom of speech must not violate the rights for democracy in others.

You disagree and must insult other religions and Nature's God?

Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they [ATHEISTS] should declare the causes... (of respect to Nature's God)

Atheist = Criminal <- The argument for this Thread.

That is not the case for all countries.

British%20Values.jpg


What does it mean to be British?

That is the public policy for the interpretation of the Constitution and statutory laws etc.
 
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Shad

Veteran Member
So what is your argument? Your freedom of speech must not violate the rights for democracy in others.

The UK has hate speech laws ergo does not have free speech.

You disagree and must insult other religions and Nature's God?

I insult no one. I point out your basic errors which reflect your thinking which happens to be insulting.
 

Matheist

http://animist.net
I insult no one. I point out your basic errors which reflect your thinking which happens to be insulting.

This thread is not about you, but about the Creed of an Atheist to "disbelief or lack of belief in "The Founding Principles and Universal Declaration of Human Rights (NATURE'S GOD)".

It is without belief in The Law

It is without belief in Basic Human Rights.

Therefore, they are Criminal ( = against Public Policy) and should lose Citizenship.

Perhaps, people should lodge a report to the Commission and their Governments etc.

https://www.stoponlineabuse.org.uk/
Government launches anti-trolling website to help victims of online abuse
 
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Could it be said that Atheism is unconstitutional and illegal?

The terrorist ideology and doctrines?

PREMISE: God means:

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident...

The Declaration of Independence: Full text

He made all gods same god [LordLaw of Nature & Nature's God]. (Quran 38:5)​

THEREFORE, the definition of Atheism:

atheism /ˈeɪθɪɪz(ə)m/
noun
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of Nature's God.

Atheism rejects public policy and the Constitution; of all countries.

Atheism rejects the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, The United Nation.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights

It is the actus reus and mens rea of a criminal.

Funny that there are no atheist terror groups

Atheism rejects nothing but god or gods

However making such claims based on nothing but ignorance and hatred is really very insulting and speaks volumes for your own faiths tolerance.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
That's your opinion and have nothing to do with the following definition:

disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of Nature's God.​

Can you understand its argument?

Its a false definition again. Disbelief is unwillingness to believe something and doesnt represent the atheist position. Atheists are willing to believe in a God if there were sound evidence for such. Atheists honestly see no evidence for any God. What could be simpler then that.
 

lukethethird

unknown member
Atheism is ILLEGAL?

If that were actually true everyone would want to know why and then once they come to realize how cool atheism really is, especially compared to following any religion one could name, the numbers of atheists will go up. Is that what we want to happen?
 

Matheist

http://animist.net
However making such claims based on nothing but ignorance and hatred is really very insulting and speaks volumes for your own faiths tolerance.

Penal Code is much the same and our Penal Code define "terrorist acts" as follow:

Section 130B (2) Penal Code.

“terrorist act” means —

(a) the act or threat falls within subsection (3) and does not fall within subsection (4);

(b) the act is done or the threat is made with the intention of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause; and

(c) the act or threat is intended or may reasonably be regarded as being intended to—

(i) intimidate the public or a section of the public; or

(ii) influence or compel the Government ... , any other government, or any international organization to do or refrain from doing any act (of belief in Nature's God).

Atheism not rooted in science, logic, philosophy, facts etc and rejects all burden of proof. It's mere existence is only to intimidate the public and insult Nature's God. They claim to disbelief or without belief in Nature's God but talks and wrote Books etc about Gods. They claim to disbelief or without belief in Nature's God but reject all gods and all religions, refusing Truth as God (There is no god higher than Truth). It is Hasty Generalization.
 
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Atheism is ILLEGAL?

If that were actually true everyone would want to know why and then once they come to realize how cool atheism really is, especially compared to following any religion one could name, the numbers of atheists will go up. Is that what we want to happen?


Sounds good to me.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Penal Code is much the same and our Penal Code define "terrorist acts" as follow:

Section 130B (2) Penal Code.

“terrorist act” means —

(a) the act or threat falls within subsection (3) and does not fall within subsection (4);

(b) the act is done or the threat is made with the intention of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause; and

(c) the act or threat is intended or may reasonably be regarded as being intended to—

(i) intimidate the public or a section of the public; or

(ii) influence or compel the Government ... , any other government, or any international organization to do or refrain from doing any act.

Atheism not rooted in science, logic, philosophy, facts and rejects all burden of proof. It's mere existence is only to intimidate the public and insult Nature's God.

And still no atheist terror groups despite the fact you implied so in your OP

Atheism is rooted in the fact there is no proof of any god, the burden of proof is yours, you make the claim, without evidence.
You may throw your personal misrepresentation, misunderstanding, strawmen and hatred of atheism anywhere you want, it makes mo difference to fact.
 
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