Atheism is ILLEGAL?

[ChristineM]

Denial, in ordinary English usage, is asserting that a statement or allegation is not true.[1] The same word, and also abnegation (German: Verneinung), is used for a psychological defense mechanism postulated by psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. An individual that exhibits such behavior is described as a denialist or true believer. Denial - Wikipedia

Yup, but wasting your time, my time, server time and bandwidth by repeating it over and over again ad infinitum is a waste of everyone's time and rather childish.

 

[Matheist]

You made he claim, you quote it in relation to atheism as you claimed but have failed to justify

BTW. Multiply repeated bull is not usefull

You are a True Believer.

What is your reference to the law, meaning and its logical deduction to support your counterargument? Other than your PERSONAL OPINION, blind claim and mere INSULTS.

 

[ChristineM]

An atheist was convicted for placing sexually explicit images of religious figures in the Liverpool Airport prayer room. Atheist guilty over cartoons left at Liverpool airport

Wow and muslims brought down the twin towers and christians burn witches and rape children

 

[Curious George]

So that is P1, refer to post 1 and..

(b) the act is done or the threat is made with the intention of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause; and

(c) the act or threat is intended or may reasonably be regarded as being intended to—

(i) intimidate the public or a section of the public; or

(ii) influence or compel the Government ... , any other government, or any international organization to do or refrain from doing any act (of belief in Nature's God).​

• An atheist was convicted for placing sexually explicit images of religious figures in the Liverpool Airport prayer room. Atheist guilty over cartoons left at Liverpool airport

Therefore, is a Crime.

All of this does nothing to address your sentence regarding actus reus and mens rea. This is the only portion I am discussing.

 

[ChristineM]

You are a True Believer.

What is your reference to the law and its logical deduction to support your counterargument? Other than your PERSONAL OPINION and blind claim.

The fact that atheism is not illegal. End of story

Now you posted the op, are you not going to cite statute to prove your claim?

 

[Matheist]

The fact that atheism is not illegal. End of story

I've made my point, It is a Religion, and for insulting Nature's God.

dogmatism
/ˈdɒɡmətɪz(ə)m/
noun

the tendency to lay down principles as undeniably true, without consideration of evidence or the opinions of others (for Nature's God).

"a culture of dogmatism and fanaticism"

 

[Matheist]

All of this does nothing to address your sentence regarding actus reus and mens rea. This is the only portion I am discussing.

You want to discuss the basic elements for Criminology?

Not in this thread, I suggest for Law Degree etc.

 

[ChristineM]

I've made my point, It is a Religion, and for insulting Nature's God.

You have already been refuted on your atheism is a religion claim.

So can you prove god if you are unable to prove atheism is illegal?

 

[Matheist]

You have already been refuted on your atheism is a religion claim.

Not even close, much is delusional .. . Refer here

#Strawman , while the actual argument remains untouched.

So can you prove god if you are unable to prove atheism is illegal?

It is Nature's God.. .do you know what it means?

atheism is illegal?

Anything against Nature's God is a Crime.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

How could Nature's God oppose freedom of religion?

and...

He made all gods same god. (Quran 38:5)​

There is no compulsion where the deen is concerned. Right guidance (natural) has become clearly distinct from error (unnatural). Anyone who rejects false LordLaws (Forced Justice, Political Jurisprudence) and has iman in Allah (Sunnatullah, Way of Allah, LordLaw of Nature, Nature's God) has grasped the Firmest Handhold, which will never give way. Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. (Quran 2:256)

If your Lord had willed, all the people on the earth would have had iman (in Ecological Justice). Do you think you can force people to be pure natural believers? No self can have iman (in Nature) except with Allah´s permission. He places a blight on those who do not use their intellect. (10:99-100)

Say: ´It is the truth from your Lord; so let whoever wishes have iman (in Ecological Justice) and whoever wishes be kafir (in Ecological Justice).´ (Quran 18:29)​

So it is VALID, LAWFUL ...

What is your VALIDITY?

What is your LAWFULNESS?

If you aren't interested in a real conversation, you could have just said so.

 

[Curious George]

You want to discuss the basic elements for Criminology?

Not in this thread, I suggest for Law Degree etc.

I want to discuss the words you used in this thread in this thread. Why would that be a problem. Had you not wanted to discuss them, you would not have used them. Correct?

 

[Matheist]

I want to discuss the words you used in this thread in this thread. Why would that be a problem. Had you not wanted to discuss them, you would not have used them. Correct?

It is off-topic, and the red herring fallacy.. open your own thread to discuss about criminology ... and do you think the prosecutor failed to establish the mens rea and actus reus in the following case?

• An atheist was convicted for placing sexually explicit images of religious figures in the Liverpool Airport prayer room. Atheist guilty over cartoons left at Liverpool airport

"...The maximum sentence for such an offence is seven years in prison....."

Thus, I've already proved

1. Mens rea in Atheism, is a Crime in Nature.
2. Actus rea in Atheism, may become a Crime.

 

[Matheist]

If you aren't interested in a real conversation, you could have just said so.

That's is for you... bring real argument:

Claim + Reason + Evidence + No Strawman / Fallacy​

 

[Matheist]

Unanimously agreed, God is Nature's God.

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident...

The Declaration of Independence: Full text
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[ChristineM]

Not even close, much is delusional .. . Refer here

#Strawman , while the actual argument remains untouched.



It is Nature's God.. .do you know what it means?
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.


Anything against Nature's God is a Crime.

Atheism : disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Your opinion does not counter the dictionary definition. You even claimed the dictionary definition was wrong. Until you get the dictionaries changed the delusion is all yours

Proof? No, then all you have is opinion

Interestingly in US prisons the percentage of atheist prisoners is less than the national percentage of atheist by a considerable amount while the number of religious inmates exceeds the national average of religious people. Seems that, in america at least the crime seems to be among those who believe in god or gods.

Then why is it not in statute that anything against your god go a crime?

 

[Matheist]

Atheism : disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Your opinion does not counter the dictionary definition. You even claimed the dictionary definition was wrong. Until you get the dictionaries changed the delusion is all yours

Proof? No, then all you have is opinion

Where did I said that? Prove it.. quote my comment.

and how can it be my opinion when it is your official definition of Atheism?

That is your Logic?

Interestingly in US prisons the percentage of atheist prisoners is less than the national percentage of atheist by a considerable amount while the number of religious inmates exceeds the national average of religious people. Seems that, in america at least the crime seems to be among those who believe in god or gods.

Then why is it not in statute that anything against your god go a crime?

It is soon, many countries have made it as a Crime and Atheists in UK etc have been sentenced to prison. They are Criminals. It's good.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

That's is for you... bring real argument:

Claim + Reason + Evidence + No Strawman / Fallacy​

And onto ignore you go.

 

[Matheist]

Definition of Islam = define who they are
Definition of Judaism = define who they are
Definition of Christianity = define who they are
Definition of Hinduism = define who they are
Definition of Buddhism = define who they are
Definition of Matheism = accept all gods and all religions, all gods same god

Definition of Atheism = insult all gods and all regions (without proof against Nature's God)

 

[Revoltingest]

The creed for Atheism says:

Disbelief in Nature's God
Without belief in Nature's God​

Therefore,

Disbelief/without belief in the LordLaw (Public Policy for Democracy)
Disbelief/without belief in Basic Human Rights​

When using the word "therefore", it should be accompanied by a logical argument.
You skipped that last part.

If atheism is illegal, as you claim, why isn't it prosecuted here?
Do you advocate prosecuting us for it?

 

[Matheist]

If atheism is illegal, as you claim, why isn't it prosecuted here?
Do you advocate prosecuting us for it?

Yee was arrested and convicted of “wounding religious feelings” and “obscenity” in 2015 after he made a video mocking Christianity and Singapore’s founding father, Lee Kwan Yew. Though he was handed a jail sentence of multiple weeks. Singaporean Atheist Jailed for “Wounding Religious Feelings” Says Police Won’t Return His Property

Uttering words, etc., with deliberate intent to wound the religious feelings of any person

Section 298 Penal Code. Whoever, with deliberate intention of wounding the religious feelings of any person, utters any word or makes any sound in the hearing of that person, or makes any gesture in the sight of that person, or places any object in the sight of that person, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to one year or with fine or with both.

Causing, etc., disharmony, disunity, or feelings of enmity, hatred or ill will, or prejudicing, etc., the maintenance of harmony or unity, on grounds of religion

Section 298A Penal Code. (1) Whoever by words, either spoken or written, or by signs, or by visible representations, or by any act, activity or conduct, or by organizing, promoting or arranging, or assisting in organizing, promoting or arranging, any activity, or otherwise in any other manner—

(a) causes, or attempts to cause, or is likely to cause disharmony, disunity, or feelings of enmity, hatred or ill will; or

(b) prejudices, or attempts to prejudice, or is likely to prejudice, the maintenance of harmony or unity,
on grounds of religion, between persons or groups of persons professing the same or different religions, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term of not less than two years and not more than five years.